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The leader of the opposition was already in house arrest.

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[โ€“] VictimOfReligion@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So you in favor of Russia making Ukraine and NATO to fuck off

[โ€“] vitaminka@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

depends on what you mean by "fuck off", it's pretty vague ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ

[โ€“] VictimOfReligion@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh, yeah, so vague that you need to wilfully ignore context lmao

[โ€“] vitaminka@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i just find it more helpful to communicate in concrete terms because it leaves fewer room for ambiguity and misunderstanding

in this context "fuck off" could mean a million different things: a direct conflict, an information campaign seeking to inform people about the negative aspects of [something] or discredit, or economic sanctions, or closer cooperation with the aim of trying to contain military action via diplomacy et cetera

[โ€“] VictimOfReligion@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Basically, willfully ignoring context.

[โ€“] vitaminka@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i feel like you'd be able to type out what you meant by that several times already in the time it took us to type out this back-and-forth, i'm legitimately unsure what you meant by that

the only good reason i can imagine why one wouldn't want to do that is because nato opposition in certain circles exists as a vague and nebulous pent-up hostility without any sort of concrete and detailed plan to combat it, which would provide a concrete framework upon which one would be able to act, and in the absence of which anything ones says can't be criticised because it's so vague and inconcrete...

i may be wrong though ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ

[โ€“] VictimOfReligion@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, pretty much wrong if all you do is willfully ignoring basically all. You are showing already it also in another convo with another user, why should I waste my effort in people that are willingly ignorant?

[โ€“] vitaminka@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

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