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[–] zaphod@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

So, putting a gay couple on screen and just having it be a normal aspect of who they are (to be clear: the nature of their relationship was never a plot point on the show) is "blandly doing the cultural issues"?

Was casually putting Uhura, a black woman, on the bridge of a starship on a show airing in the 1960s, without ever calling attention to her race, also "blandly doing the cultural issues"?

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My comment is not about any specific lgbtq content but about the general attitude of the writing. The focus on drama over logic completely shallows out the allegory until it's JUST a gay couple being contemporarily gay on screen.

It's not bad to have contemporary representation, it's just less inspired than what older ST did. Mind, I've heard later Picard seasons get better on the writing, and SNW I only stopped watching because I forgot more were coming, so I'm not trying to poo poo on anything except that which people largely already agree aren't that great.

Like the first season of TNG. It's uh... they had some decent episodes but boy were the bad ones something. lol Or the TNG movies for the most part. They're just ... different than the show. Entertaining, but that's not my only criteria for ST, personally.

[–] zaphod@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The focus on drama over logic completely shallows out the allegory until it's JUST a gay couple being contemporarily gay on screen

Yeah. That's my point.

Maybe there is no allegory.

Maybe it's just a gay couple on screen.

Like Nichelle as Uhura was just a black woman in an elevated position on screen.

No message. Just simple representation.

Why is that such a problem?

Because if you ask people in the community, many will tell you they're kinda sick of the gay experience only be represented in a negative light, always a struggle, always a message, as opposed to just them simply and comfortably existing.