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Lemmy.world seems to have banned the largest piracy community on Lemmy. (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by satxdude@lemm.ee to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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This has happened once before and they reversed it. But they said this last time too:

The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.

https://lemmy.world/post/3234363

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 38 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah that. And I say it as someone who, on a good day, will go on philosophical rambles about how piracy is in fact the moral thing to do.

Do people just not get that this is the entire point of a decentralized system?

Hop accounts, you lil' bitch. Don't sit in one server complaining about the owner of that server when you have a billion options.

And if your priority is the piracy community? Make the server that hosts that your homeserver.

Or just have more than one account and use an app instead of the default webpage.

It's not rocket science. People's brains are poisoned by centralization. Back in my day everything was its own separate forum with its own separate account and to be honest, it was miles better like that.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

The problem with this is that it isn't really decentralized equally. Lemmy.world has most of the users and getting defederated from them is essentially a death sentence in terms of content and engagement.

I think it's a good idea to make new accounts on other instances, I plan to but without a proper amount of people, lemmy.world is working the same way reddit did.

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The problem with this is that it isn’t really decentralized equally. Lemmy.world has most of the users and getting defederated from them is essentially a death sentence in terms of content and engagement.

Self-resolving issue here. If people hop away from LW due to LW making decisions they don't like, LW will cease being the one-go-to-place for stuff. Which is good, it shouldn't be. No one instance should be "the main instance". The right way to use federation is each person & community should make their home at a place where they vibe just right with the fed admins. It's even good for LW itself as it reduces the burden on its server and the workload for its admins.

Also also -- Defederation is a far more nuanced thing than just "is block". There is more than one tool that can be used by an ActivityPub admin.

If LW defederates from your home instance -- You can still manually follow communities that are in LW AND interact with them (unless the admins go out of their way to ALSO block USERS from your home instance), as "defederated from the instance" just removes it from the global timeline/global community search.

What happened here, though, wasn't defederation, it was a block, and a block on two specific communities, which outright prevents viewing & interacting with content from those communities from within LW. Which brings me to: LW's block on the piracy communities from dbzer0 doesn't stop LW users from interacting with dbzer0 as a whole. Or vice-versa. Only with stuff from the piracy coms.

[–] Blaze@dormi.zone 8 points 8 months ago

Hopefully this will drive people to switch to another instance, and the issue you mentions will be less present.