The German compound noun thing also works in other Germanic languages like, say, Dutch, Swedish and Old English. You can blame the Normans (i.e. a bunch of snobbish Vikings who, a generation earlier, decided to speak only French) for modern English’s lack of them.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 7 months ago

The Fr*nch neocat, angry

[–] KrokanteBamischijf@feddit.nl 17 points 7 months ago (3 children)

And it leads to a neverending stream of newly invented hype words.

We even have a yearly word of the year tradition, where the organisation behind our most famous dictionary picks one of these newly invented words based on coverage in media.

Last year's word was "graaiflatie", a combination between "graaien" (no direct translation, means to grab, but in a greedy way), and "inflatie" (inflation).

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

We have many of them in English as well.

Pretty much every dictionary and various organisations have their own.

[–] CareHare@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In Belgium there's a radio segment where every lunch they create a new word, most of them are for situations or feelings that are quite specific. Of course it's just a little bit of messing around, it's not like there's 5 new Flemmish words to memorize every week.

[–] KrokanteBamischijf@feddit.nl 2 points 7 months ago

From a Dutch perspective, there's always 5 new Flemmish words to memorize. You'd think we speak the same language, but we really don't.

In some ways, Flemmish is more Dutch than the language anyone from the Netherlands speaks. Which seems especially true when it comes to loan-words from French, which some of you seem to avoid at all costs.

All of this leads to interesting situations where any conversation with our southern neighbours has a risk of needing a mental double take to make sure we derived the right meaning from your fancy words.

One example of how crazy things can get is the word for roundabout. The Dutch will generally refer such traffic control measures as rotonde, which is a French bastardization. The Flemmish, in turn, sometimes refer to them as rondpunt. ...which the French seem to have adopted when they say rond-point.

The French definition of rotonde is actually from architecture. Where it is used for dome-shaped constructions, and is originally derived from the Latin rotondus, which just means "round". Conclusion: Dutch is a weird language.

[–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Graaien could be clutch, claw, scrabble, grasp, or snatch, maybe?

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

to yoink

[–] KrokanteBamischijf@feddit.nl 5 points 7 months ago

I usually associate yoink with playfully stealing something, whereas graaien in this context refers more to behaviour seen in landlords and high level executives. You know, the kinds of people that are so far up their shareholder's butts that they can't see the damage they're causing.

Let's just reserve yoink for stealing each other's hoodies and similar endearing behaviour.

[–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

There it is

[–] celeste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Swedish is a Germanic language tf? Just checked Wikipedia and spparently you're right

[–] sunbather@beehaw.org 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

swedish and german have a significantly overlapping vocab and can be pretty fun to compare, one of my favourite examples showcasing the relationship between the languages are the respective words for iron: originally derived from proto-germanic īsarną, proto-norse took the ending turning it into járn, which became the modern järn in swedish, meanwhile old high german went the other way transforming it into īsarn, middle high german īsen, then the contemporary Eisen

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 9 points 7 months ago

It’s a bit like British and American English taking “N-acetyl-para-aminophenol” and turning it into “paracetamol” and “acetaminophen” respectively.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 5 points 7 months ago

Nordic languages branched off from Germanic languages, so they're related yea

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

North Germanic, descended from Old Norse; there are varying and debatable degrees of mutual intelligibility between it, Danish and Norwegian, to the point that instructions on product packages sold in the three countries are sometimes written as one phrase for all three, with differing words written with slashes, and linguists occasionally lump all three together as “Scandinavian”.

Out of interest, what did you think it was if not Germanic?

[–] celeste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago

I rhought it was Scandinavian/Norse but never thought deeper than that.

[–] KrokanteBamischijf@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago

Fun fact: The Frisian language (and Dutch by extension) has overlapping origin with both Danish and Swedish.

We can usually grasp a lot of conversational Danish and Swedish because a lot of the words are similar.