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Edit: Jesus Christ, people. If you buy a $150 Thinkpad made by slave labor instead of a $1,200 MacBook made by slave labor, you're still supporting a capitalist economy based on slave labor. We all do. We have no choice. The number of smug liberals in the comments saying "well I buy a cheap used laptop" or "well I buy coffee beans and make my own coffee" are completely missing the fucking point.

Don't tell yourself your consumption is moral. All of us make unethical choices every day because there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Accept your shame and guilt and let it drive you to do better.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do people not know or is having something lightweight more important to them?

Why do you care so much what other people choose to spend their money on?

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I don't care, but those attitudes and habits, and the bullshit you're defending has a real effect on something I do care about. The environment. But you do you.

https://globalewaste.org/

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/world-losing-battle-against-electronic-waste-un-finds-2024-03-20/

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

And replacing old RAM and old drives wouldn't also create a lot of waste?

Exactly what percentage of the waste generated today is Macbooks?

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It would reduce the amount of waste greatly, so would repairable products. And I guess enough of it is Apple for them to be a trillion dollar business.

You ride that apple d hard, damn.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure you think insulting me will make me a huge fan of Apple rather than someone who understands why people buy them, but I'm afraid it won't work. Sorry. You can't wish someone into who you want them to be.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That.. Made no sense. But shirking personal responsibility to be conscious of the effects of your product choices due to convenience seems to be pretty common.

Like I said, you do you.

I make more educated choices where I can because I actually care about the damage these things do and I'd prefer not to live in a rubbish dump.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, what makes no sense is you insulting me for being some big champion of Apple when I'm not.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You keep defending them, the modern pioneer of planned obsolescence, the company that deliberately works to make their products unrepairable. I'm amazed they didn't invent the disposable vape.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nope, I keep explaining why people are buying their products. It's not my fault you are taking my explanation of what other people do personally enough to make up lies about me and use them as insults.

👍🏼 I'm going to go enjoy my Sunday now.