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meaning the models training data is what lets you work around or improve on that bias. without the training data, that's (borderline) impossible. so in order to tweak models and further development, you need to know what exactly went into the model, or you'll spend a lot of wasted time guessing around.
you disregarded half of what makes an AI model. the half that actually results in a working model. without the training data, you'd only have some code that does...something.
and that something is entirely dependent on the training data!
so it's essential, not optional, for any kind of "open source" AI, because without it you're working with a black box. which is by definition NOT open source.
@WalnutLum@lemmy.ml
Asking for the training data is more like asking for detailed design documentation in addition to source code, so that others can rewrite the code from scratch.
Neural networks are inherently black boxes. Knowing the training data does little to change that. Given the sheer volume of data used in training the interesting models, more than very high level knowledge is not possible in any case.
There are open datasets, as well as open models. If open source models are only those trained on open datasets, then we need a new word for the status of most models. As it is, open source model and open source dataset is pretty clear. There's no need to make it complicated.
If it also a requirement that the data itself should be downloadable, then open source AI would be illegal in many countries. Much of the data will be under copyright, meaning that it can't be shared in many countries. EG, the original Stable Diffusion was trained on an open dataset. The dataset only contained links to images, since sharing the actual images would have been illegal in their jurisdiction. Link rot being what it is, the original data was not available pretty quickly. It has been alleged that some of the links pointed to CSAM, so now even the links are a hot potato.
Do you have any source that explains how this would work?