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i recently lost my job and it's horrible being in the 'unemployed' class -- you're made to feel worthless, you have to take advice from people, perfectly well meaning of course, that are basically encouragement on digging your own grave - i love being in the position where i have to do some fake elizabethian courting ritual where i have to pretend i'm super excited to do whatever tf they do, oh and i'm the best man for the job! -- when you've just sent in 200 applications and gotten nothing back, when you've just been let go for dubious bullshit reasons, you're supposed to act like you're ready for a challenge!

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[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 51 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I understand why people do it but it's a superficial and bad metric. Some people are bubbly and excited all the time, meanwhile I rarely tend be visibly excited. Plus the way it's gamed these days, it's a better indicator of how much of a suck up someone is and how willing they are to fake their emotions.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

how much of a suck up someone is

something every manager values

and how willing they are to fake their emotions.

a useful skill in every public-facing profession

[–] whenigrowup356@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The community's called work reform.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 7 points 8 months ago

which is why I didn't think I needed to highlight the irony with a sarcasm tag, but apparently I was wrong

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's true, but it's basic human nature. Given two candidates who are both qualified but have different strengths, most likely the hiring manager will pick the person that seems easier to work with. This won't always be the person who's bubblier, but will usually be the person who's more engaged during the interview. It's not just about what someone's like on paper, it's also about being able to create enough of an impression with whoever's hiring them that they're memorable in a positive way.

This isn't malicious, it's just how almost everyone works. It, of course, also presents challenges for people who are neurodivergent. There's no easy solution here, telling the hiring manager they're neurodivergent is a mixed bag.

Part of why the interpersonal part matters is because most every person who has hired someone has been burned by someone who seemed fine on paper, so they gave the new hire a shot despite some flags during the interview. It's happened to me, it sucks and feels shitty. When that happens, if they're competent, the manager starts going for people who seem more engaged during the interview (as opposed to super eager, which can be a red flag).

Lastly, hiring people is a skill. Some people are good at it, I am not. At least I learned very quickly that I should let others handle it, which I hope prevented future mismatches between the candidate and the job.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

See how you're being downvoted for stating some simple, human, truths? That kinda thing makes me think lemmy is mainly a bunch of pissy teens with no real-world experience.