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Casting doubt on the credibility of Hamas' death counts is casting doubt on the credibility of the GHM, because that's where their numbers come from.

I made an edit. Generally speaking, I agree with this statement. It doesn't mean I agree with Hamas. That's the main point I was making in my original comment.

You do realize that I'm the one that posted this not exactly pro-Israel article, right? I.e. I'm on your side on a certain amount of this, at least?

The analogy was of 2 subjugated peoples who resisted their subjugators with violence, and are then condemned for it.

I don't condemn Hamas for resisting their subjugators with violence. I condemn them for doing it in a corrupt, stupid, and counterproductive way, to the point that Likud wants to support them because them being around is so good for accomplishing Likud's mission.

No, you said that Likud supports Hamas because (in your claim) Hamas is opposed to peace.

I made an edit with some backing for my statement that Hamas doesn't support peace, through either violent or nonviolent means.

Peace, to me, means peace. Means 80-90% of people just want to do their farms and raise their children and be left alone. So your aim is to let them do that. If you need to fight to preserve that, because your back's to the wall and you have enemies coming and killing you, taking your homes, then fine. I get that, it makes perfect sense to me. It's necessary, it's standing up for your country. Do your killing and fight your war with it fixed firmly in your mind when on some distant day your families and your community might be able to live and just do their business and all the guns and bombs can be buried. That's the goal.

If you're of the opinion that any peaceful business being done by anybody, any progress whether fake or real, all of that has to go on hold, for your allies and enemies alike, so that you inflame the killing and bring a real war, with the aim of finally reaching this distant day when all your enemies are dead, women and little children, the guilty and the innocent, then I don't support you.

I get the idea of needing to resist the open-air prison that Israel calls "peace," and the unconscionable crime that the West in general is committing by supporting Israel in its apartheid and its slaughter. I don't know what the answer is to that. I wish I did, I really do.. All I'm saying is, killing a bunch of people at a music festival isn't it. I mean, how did it work out? Are things peaceful now?