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[–] tastysnacks@programming.dev 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is this the same "discovered" as America was "discovered" in 1492?

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Actually no, I don't think there were any people living in Antarctica.. but I could be wrong.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But were there people living in the southern hemisphere who knew not to go further south because they'd reach the icy land of certain death?

[–] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There were probably people who knew that if they went further south they'd not come back. On maps locations like these used to be labeled "Here there be monsters" or something like that.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Probably not. They knew not to go further south because they'd reach the icy ocean of certain death. Because there's no land at 60° South, the winds and currents whip around Antarctica in an uninterrupted circle and there are 100 kph winds and 10+ meter waves most of the time.

See also: "Roaring Forties," "Furious Fifties," and "Screaming Sixties"

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This is a very human centric definition of discovery.

Penguins had been living there for millenia beforehand.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I was mocking the attitude that something can't be discovered by one group of people if a different group of people already knew about it.

Columbus discovering the Americas is commonly called a "euro-centric definition of discovery". While conveniently ignoring that literally nobody in Europe knew the Americas existed.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

That's fair, that can annoy me too occasionally.

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Probably no settlements, but Polynesians went all over the place so it's not unlikely that they checked it out at some point.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynesian_navigation#Subantarctic_and_Antarctica

Sounds like a "probably not, but maybe."

I'm a big fan of Polynesian sailing and would argue that they were every bit the equal of Age of Sail Europeans, if not superior (even despite lacking compass technology). However, their boats and clothing were generally pretty optimized for the tropics, not polar conditions.

I, for one, wouldn't want to be in the Screaming Sixties wearing a cloak and no pants exposed on the deck of a catamaran, no matter how many seal pelts said cloak was made out of. I can only assume any sane wayfinder would say "fuck this shit" and turn North well before hitting the Antarctic shore.