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In the popular imagination of many Americans, particularly those on the left side of the political spectrum, the typical MAGA supporter is a rural resident who hates Black and Brown people, loathes liberals, loves gods and guns, believes in myriad conspiracy theories, has little faith in democracy, and is willing to use violence to achieve their goals, as thousands did on Jan. 6.

According to a new book, White Rural Rage: The Threat to American Democracy, these aren’t hurtful, elitist stereotypes by Acela Corridor denizens and bubble-dwelling liberals… they’re facts.

The authors, Tom Schaller, a professor at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County, and Paul Waldman, a former columnist at The Washington Post, persuasively argue that most of the negative stereotypes liberals hold about rural Americans are actually true.

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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Don’t be. They’re rubes. Dumber than dogshit. Just pawns in a game.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 36 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Pawns, yes. Dumb, stupid as in an inherent trait, no. Just used and discarded by corporate America over the last 70 years or so.

It used to be, in the earlier part of the last century, that you could get as good an education in a small town as in a big city, and a lot of rural folk prided themselves on NOT being dumb hicks. WWI brought them out of the countryside by the scores and raised the expectations for all. These people went off to the wars, went to college on the GI Bill, and even came back to run their farms. This was the norm sixty years ago. This was the life my parents and grandparents lived, on both sides. They were never good at accepting differences in others, but education was HIGHLY valued, and sloth was the greatest failure of character anyone could imagine.

But now, look at corporate America, and especially BigAg, for stripping small towns of everything that made for good living and a pleasant life in rural communities. Walmart came and drove all the small stores out of business. Ace Hardware and others came and drove all the small hardware shops out. McDonalds and Waffle House came and drove all the little diners out of business. Fifty years ago, ALL the individual trades were well represented and thriving in rural areas, because everyone, rich or poor, still needed plumbers and blacksmiths and print shops and seamstresses, and it was difficult to find a town without its own proud newspaper.

All these small enterprises and career options and jobs at every skill level were replaced with what?

Sweet fuck all beyond fear, anger, drugs and debt.

Rural America is a wasteland filled with scared, angry, bitter people because WE, as a country, made it that way.

But they're no different than the rest of us: give them a shot, decent jobs, decent education, futures to work for and they're just like everyone else. That, and shut off the goddamn propaganda channels that have taken their righteous and well-earned anger and appropriated even THAT, turning it into emotional nooses for yet another set of rich men to control.

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Hard to give them a decent education when they defund the school systems because 'muh taxes' and denigrate their teachers and everything else public Ed ('ceptin the "pride of the town", the HS football team, because that one QB is gonna git scouted 'cuz he' s got a helluva arm)

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Rural America is a wasteland filled with scared, angry, bitter people because WE, as a country, made it that way.

Sorry, one more thought. No one ever voted for "let's impoverish rural america" just like no one ever voted for "let's make sure teachers can barely afford to live on their salary, while also expecting them to be the primary source of education for literally everyone in the country." Teachers (and many other groups) have a lot of righteous anger too. I don't see them doing what maga is doing, and I wouldn't expect them to get a pass if they did.

While I am more than OK laying much of this at the feet of corporate greed, I'm less so inclined to lay much of it at the feet of average non-rural folks just trying to get to work and feed their families every day. As you say - they've got the same requirement to do so as the magas.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I wrote what I wrote because there are a number of people here concern trolling, literally demonizing magas. That's a right-wing division tactic and does not reflect the reality of the situation.

We as a country did this -- but not knowingly. Did anyone outside of government really understand what Citizens United would do, or that the Supreme Court of that time would choose that course? There was a LOT of government dishonesty that led up to that, just like Lee Atwater is personally responsible for much of the hatred and division we are now reaping in society. We may not have voted for the end result, but as a country, we did choose our course, and I'm just as responsible as anyone else of voting age in those days.

But that doesn't make right-wing voters stupid, or inherently less-than, anyone. Look at that chucklehead who responded to my post with this bullshit:

They are the cause of their own downfall and reject any ideas that might help them. They deserve no pity. They’ve earned their place in the intellectual hierarchy. The smart ones all leave for cities with no plans to return.

That's right-wing hate dressed up in a "liberal" cause.

In the end, magas are propagandized, and the pressure in their communities to remain so is immense. Yet they are individually just as responsible for their own choices as you are, or I am.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's a fair point of view that I can't argue with!

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

That's pretty much what I was trying to set forth with my first comment, but I'll do my best to make it clearer from the outset next time. I thought your comments were fairly well balanced too; it's damn difficult to communicate nuance these days, so mad props to anyone who even tries. Thank you for telling me, it's very kind of you to acknowledge. I'm kind of shocked (but in a good way, lol).

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Social welfare programs, student loan forgiveness, higher education/tuition reform, minimum wage increases, UBI, single payer healthcare and on and on and on benefit EVERYONE, not just people who vote D or live in blue states. (Barring potential interference from R governors)

That doesn't mean there may not be some valid criticism about some of those programs, or that we might not have to experiment over time to get them right.

But it's VERY hard to have sympathy for folks who constantly vote against the party who proposes those (imperfect) solutions and participate in the vilification of those programs and that party, especially when they INSTEAD vote for the party who plainly has the interest of only one demographic in mind, and is actively trying to fuck over everyone not in that demographic.

We can't even try those things which may help them (and others), because they will never let us.

Edit: Final para of the article offers a similar summary:

In short, rural America has made one of the worst deals in American politics—they slavishly support a Republican Party that not only does little to stop their inexorable decline but actually makes it worse.

The GOP’s anti-abortion agenda means rural maternity wards got shut down. Opposition to public broadband most directly harms rural America, where there is little incentive for private companies to set up service. Republican attacks on higher education have a disproportionate influence on underserved rural universities. And anti-vax attitudes have led to COVID death rates that rival or surpass far denser population areas—an outcome that makes little public health sense but is easily explained by partisan politics.

Yet, none of this has stopped rural Americans from casting votes for Republican politicians. If anything, their support for the GOP has intensified as Trump has taken control of the party. In 2016, 62 percent of rural America voted for Trump. In 2020, it jumped to 71 percent.

Paradoxically, the worse things get, the more it increases despondency, disillusionment, and resentment—the three attributes Republican politicians most effectively mine to maintain their support in rural America.

Rather than offering an agenda for rural development, Republican politicians simply ladle out more steaming hot bowls of resentment and targets for rural anger, be they urban-dwelling liberals, undocumented immigrants, trans kids, beer companies, or the “fake news” media.

And rural MAGA laps it up.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They are the cause of their own downfall and reject any ideas that might help them. They deserve no pity. They've earned their place in the intellectual hierarchy. The smart ones all leave for cities with no plans to return.

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you referencing when Trump said he liked dumb voters? He knew he could get them to vote against their interests, their family interests and anything that would improve their lives. But yeah. "Screw that group of people I think I am better than"

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Accurately pointing out what they are. In no way implies they have a monopoly. Despite democrats being measurably better by nearly every metric. They are still largely problematic and often do little to actually serve their constituents.