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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Damn really nice post.

We're really at a tough point. Batteries in general suck if we're honest. The biggest problem with EVs is that not only are they worse than ICE in some regards, they are on top of that more expensive.

If they can't compete on longevity they have to compete on price, and right now they are nowhere close to worth the cost.

My personal opinion is that plugin hybrids are the future. Best of both worlds. You use the electric batteries for day to day, but you never have to worry about getting stuck or not starting in the winter.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'm also a fan of hybrids right now. There's fewer batteries to create problems, and the packs are cheaper than what's used in vehicles that are only EVs, reducing cost and weight.

I don't like that some manufacturers have either stopped offering, or never offered plug in hybrids, and bluntly, I don't understand why. It's literally a charge controller, a plug, and some wiring.... Looking at you Honda.

My biggest issue with hybrids and EVs is that many manufacturers use insane designs for them. It's like, no.... I want a normal fucking car, that just has a battery and some electric drive motors. Not a cross between a 3 year olds drawing of a "car" and a Fischer price toy.

Like, give me something that looks like a corolla or an accord, or literally any normal sedan, with a PHEV system under the hood at a reasonable price and I'll sell my old beater car today and buy one, but no. They have to do stupid crap like whatever the hell this is from BMW:

Or the Prius (which I'm sure we all know what they look like.... Kind of a stubby station wagon looking thing)... There's a freaking ton of examples, and the price is always a lot higher (usually double or more to the ICE counterpart).... So I'm going to pay more for this clown car? Fuck.

I'm actually unreasonably angry that so many hybrids and EVs look so stupid.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm in team "BMW i3 looks better than any boring Corolla". I like the unusual EV aesthetics. I want funky cars.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Personally I love that BMW design, but I'm a weirdo with a super tiny garage. They are super cheap used because they have the worst battery range I have seen in any EV and their "extender" solution is basically just slapping a gas generator into the car. It's assumed most EVs will be bought by middle class city people, so they go for more compact designs.

[–] eletes@sh.itjust.works -2 points 8 months ago

They're super cheap because replacing the batteries cost 16k