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The inability to install solar panels on my home is enshrined in my HOA and is extremely unlikely to be overturned by our members. We should be passing laws making these types of restrictions illegal
There's a story on Reddit about someone who snuck an extension cable onto the HOA president's property and had it running something like an air conditioner full blast nonstop for months. They later said something to the effect of "oh yes, prices are going up but my friend who lives in the other city has solar and he's fine". This apparently convinced the person to change the bylaws.
Arson seems easier
And more fun.
There is no level of lying and cheating you can do that is unethical when done against HOAs. HOAs are almost the lowest scum there is and should be given no quarter.
Wait... Aren't you guys supposed to be the free-est nation on earth or something?
We're a country founded by slave owners who wrote things like "all men are created equal"
*Some exclusions may apply
And they meant men too, not women.
But really they meant White Male Landowners with money.
HOAs were literally created to make sure that black people couldn't buy homes. These covenants put legal blocks on the deed for eternity to keep it from happening. It didn't take long for white people to buy a house and then turn around and sell it to a black family. The entire thing crashed. What we are left with are small Karens and Chads trying to control the people around them.
Minorities in general. Some of the first HOAs excluded Blacks, Jews, Asians, etc in literal writing. It took a SCOTUS case to overturn.
They also exist to make building a subdivision easier which is there primary purpose today.
You mistyped "allow municipalities to avoid their responsibilities and grant power to private shadow governments with storied histories of abuse and none of the hypothetical accountability that is guaranteed by the US Constitution".
They are free to die without healthcare
It was an Irishman that wrote "free to screw you before you screw me".
what- the HOA folks are worried they'd see your PV panels instead of a shingled roof for the .4 seconds they see it at all while they're parking in thier driveways?
HOA should be requiring solar instead of banning it.
I disagree. That’s a huge cost to force on people.
No one is forcing you to buy a home in an HOA that requires solar.
Could easily be in an HOA that adds the requirement though.
I do have sympathy for people that vote NO on large capital expense assessments because its expensive for them and then have to come up with the money anyways.
I love how you used the entire argument against HOAs to argue against HOAs, yet still got downvoted.
I appreciated the irony.
The issue some likely have is that moving to be able to have solar panels isn't the answer. If you bought a home in the 80s, 90s the HOA likely didn't have any rules for or against solar panels. Selling your house and moving elsewhere is a huge burden and can also be a high cost. Having to have a political movement in your neighborhood to lower costs on electricity and protect the environment a bit at the same time shouldn't require you to allot more time and effort .
Parking in the driveway is also banned in many HOAs.
tell me you're exaggerating? sounds like fucking hell on earth to me.
Colorado House Bill 21-1229 is law here now, maybe your state can pass a bill like it too?
Where I’m from, laws were changed so communities like this can’t block lot modifications that improve a lot’s sustainability performance (e.g. rooftop solar, rainwater harvesting, etc.). Not that anyone here would block rooftop solar, it’s wildly popular.
FTFY
America, home of the not free to do what you like with your own house.
I suspect that more states will follow WA and CA and start saying that counties and cities no longer can block things like denser housing, extra units on a lot, or solar.
Find an HOA with conservative leadership and you’ll find all sorts of bs. Worse when they weren’t like that when you bought, but have turned into a MAGA idiot and reject anything green on principle.
Yes. And some states (e.g. Washington) already have.
Some states do have those laws already