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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 41 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Just so surprising that treating staff well and keeping them around lets you do consistently high quality work. Boggles the mind really.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Well, this may not actually be the case. 7 or so years ago FromSoftware was pretty notoriously known to Japanese workers in the gaming industry to have very harsh working conditions, even among other Japanese studios that also have harsh conditions. Allegedly programmers at FromSoftware at that time were making an annual salary of only $27k USD. Compare this with Konami, who was paying an annual salary of $40k USD for the same position.

Its possible in the last 7 years things might have changed, but Japanese companies are usually very resistant to change. Japanese work culture honestly sucks, I would never want to.live in Japan because of this.

EDIT: You can see here that the overall worker satisfaction rating for FromSoftware is only 2.8 out of 5, which seems to be nearly the same as it used to be.

NOTE: Some readers may see something about the "Whiteness/Blackness" of the company. This has nothing to do with race or racism. This is a slang term from Japanese culture that refers to how ethical a company is. A company that is very unethical (overworking employees, borderline illegal treatment of employees, etc) is called a "Black Company," and everyone will tell you to avoid them. Conversely a "White Company" would be a very ethical company and one that everyone would be fighting each other to work for.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Ah so FromSoft went pure black company tendency.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Japanese work culture honestly sucks, I would never want to.live in Japan because of this.

You can find Western companies and semi-westernized Japanese companies where the work culture is better.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, but in Japan the large majority of businesses are Japanese, and most conform to the expected conditions of underpaying or not paying for overtime ("voluntary overtime"), etc.

Just like there can be some companies that do the same thing in the USA, though it is not.common because there are laws specifically to prevent that.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm just saying that you can live in Japan and avoid this work culture.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Yes but it is easier to avoid the work culture if you do not live in Japan.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 8 points 8 months ago

keeping them around

It's rare for employees to move companies in Japan. A lot of people will work for the same company their whole life. Japanese companies aren't really known for treating their employees well either.

I'd guess what they're doing well is hiring employees that are very passionate. I hear the anime industry is the same in that people who are in it are willing to work themselves to death because they want to work on big name projects

[–] ferralcat@monyet.cc 1 points 8 months ago

Just be clear, there is a reason that's not in the quotes of the title. The author basically makes up that they're "treating staff well* because they're not randomly firing people right now. (The empowering bit is basically fabricated)