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Who even needs investigative journalists with hidden cameras when there's Israeli state television

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[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Have you ever heard of act propensity evidence? You're again allowing your emotional thinking to make wild leaps in logic.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You’re again allowing your emotional thinking to make wild leaps in logic.

Wild leaps of logic? That Israel is committing genocide and torturing Palestinians in a prison iin their apartheid ethnostate?

I often wonder how you take yourself seriously. These are examples of torture and humiliation performed by the IDF, the dossier is bigger than you can imagine, but you will conveniently wave that "act propensity evidence" card or that other "but these are just reports" card so you can protect yourself from the emotional impact of admitting that a genocide is underway.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you can't even see what leap of logic you are making with blatant act propensity evidence, it's because you are not good at evaluating information, and I think it's because you have no ability to think rationally when you're uncomfortable with the subject matter. Why not leave yet thinking to people who know how to do it?

I think this is where you and I part ways. Your rambling about Israel and America not being democracies is a bridge too far for me. It's like you're a flat earther.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Why not leave yet thinking to people who know how to do it?

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Your rambling about Israel and America not being democracies is a bridge too far for me.

Bud, are you fucking kidding me? How irrational is it to erect your own bias wall? "Democracy" is not above criticism, and "Democracy" without Palestinians is a racist farce. I never said current America is not a democracy, since everyone CAN vote. I said America when African Americans and women couldn't vote was not a democracy... And I'm saying that Israel, a racist apartheid state that jails and kills and tortures Palestinians because of their ethnicity and doesn't allow them to vote is not a fucking democracy. You can't do apartheid and democracy at the same time. That's fucking insane!

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That would be insane. Which one of those two things are you wrong about then?

[–] snek@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Which one of those two things are you wrong about then?

Neither.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, it's all of political science who is wrong! /s

[–] snek@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Political scientists say an apartheid state is a democracy? I don't think so.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or, political scientists say......what's the other option?

You've almost got it.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You think all political scientists say that Israel isn't an apartheid state? Sounds like BS to me.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

All of them? No. The overwhelming majority of credible, professional political scientists, though.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

"The overwhelming majority of credible, professional political scientists"

Are you sure? Can you list some of these?

Ample examples of the contrary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_apartheid

[–] snek@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

@JustZ@lemmy.world Oops should I just assume you were overwhelmed by the fact that political scientists, diplomats, and human rights organizations CALL THIS AN APARTHEID STATE?

Here is the link again if you missed it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_apartheid

It's just Wikipedia.... surely you will now admit you are wrong? Or will this all just be another "collection of reports" that you don't like?

Of course I'm expecting a long block of text where you dodge each point and beat around the bush and fail to admit the crimes of Israel.