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submitted 9 months ago by THE_MASTERMIND@lemmy.sdf.org to c/lemmyapps@lemmy.world
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As lemmy is a Foss and privacy respecting platform built on that ethics and morals it is only right the clients following those morals should be the most promoted and used. In the past you may have needed proprietry apps or tools but the need is no more as more foss apps and tools that can cater to everyones taste for all platforms are available now ( see the megathread ) there is no need to use proprietry apps which are privacy nightmares and tracks, pushes ads. etc and also if a proprietry app dev decides to collect data there is no wayto know or if they close development the app is gone but with foss someone will fork it . In the past this sub has allowed posts about proprietry apps and tools those posts will stay as it is and you can interact with it but posting any new one will lead to warning and then ban this decision was made as a community by conducting a poll.

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[–] silas@programming.dev 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I still disagree with how this was executed:

  • Voting on a post is not a fair way to conduct a poll because (1) each instance shows a different amount of votes due to federation delays/issues, (2) some instances disable downvotes, and (3) downvoting decreases the visibility of posts in the main feed
  • The poll only ran for 20 hours and you didn’t state when it was going to close beforehand

I’m putting further pressure on this because:

  • The community seems to be divided pretty evenly on this proposal
  • This community is named lemmyapps, not fosslemmyapps
  • Some of us have privacy-respecting, non-tracking, no-ads apps that do not follow the FOSS model for good reasons
  • Your accounts are all less than 10 days old. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, but an introduction from our new moderator would have established a bit more credibility before making quick changes like this.

Here are some alternative solutions we could discuss:

  • Leave this community as-is and create a new community for free, open-source apps
  • Prioritize free, open-source apps in this community with megathreads or title requirements
  • If you’re still wanting to restrict this community to FOSS, do another poll that more accurately and fairly counts votes (using something like StrawPoll potentially).

Regardless, please take the time needed to do this fairly and consider both sides. Changing the topic of a 5k-member community based on a 50/50 or even 60/40 vote should not be taken lightly.

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well put.

appears you might be banned from an instance.

Do you have more details on this?

[–] silas@programming.dev 3 points 9 months ago

Oh, spoke too soon maybe, looks like it might have been accidental https://awful.systems/modlog?page=1&userId=3525901

I’ll remove that from my comment

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 2 points 9 months ago

FYI, I raised the issue to the LW admins on !moderators@lemmy.world

[–] THE_MASTERMIND@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

our accounts are all less than 10 days old

And ?

and it appears you might be banned from an instance.

I don't think so if i am can you give some proof as i would geniunly love to know

Nothing necessarily wrong with that, but an introduction from our new moderator would have established a bit more credibility before making quick changes like this.

I didn't feel the need to . And i don't think mods even do that

If you’re still wanting to restrict this community to FOSS, do another poll that more accurately and fairly counts votes

I can do another poll if the /c/ wishes me to but for the moment let the /c/ stay like this.

[–] silas@programming.dev 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Might have spoken too soon, sorry. I saw you were banned on awful.systems but looks like the ban was an accident (modlog).

You don’t have to do any of that, I was just pointing out that none of us really know who you are, where you came from, or how you became a mod here. That makes the decisions you’re making for this community more difficult to receive.

If another poll (through StrawPoll or something else more fair) is the only option you’ll consider, I vote for that. I still think a separate community for FOSS Lemmy apps would be best given the results so far, but it’s ultimately up to you

[–] THE_MASTERMIND@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 9 months ago

I know about the ban i kinda asked the mod to.

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 3 points 9 months ago

I can do another poll if the /c/ wishes me to but for the moment let the /c/ stay like this.

This seems completely arbitrary, and a decision you made alone as opposed to at least half of the community's will