Great, everyone who raised their hand deserves this shit. Everyone wants to hate on Republicans, but when it comes to the voting booth, everyone defends them to the death. Well this is what you get. But DeMoCrAcY is more important than anything and everything, right?

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I personally think it doesn't suddenly stop being "democracy" because you decided to make laws about disallowing people who are trying to dismantle democracy and replace it with authoritarianism to participate in democracy, because they're obviously participating in bad faith.

I don't think you should lose voting rights for felonies. I think you should lose voting rights for trying to dismantle the state and remove hard-fought for citizens rights. But maybe I'm a crazy person for thinking that a lot of these people are pretty dumb motherfuckers, and for the pretty dumb motherfuckers, its pretty easy to prove that they're acting in bad faith and to deny them voting rights until they get their ass educated accordingly.

I'm with you, at this point it doesn't make sense to let literal fucking terrorists be involved in democracy, because it's already no longer democracy when they're threatening you at the voting booth with their guns so you "vote right."

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Are they participating in bad faith or are they acting in line with their class interests?

[–] T4CT1L3@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Gotta be a troll, right?

[–] stown@sedd.it 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Come on, you play right into their bullshit propaganda with that message. If they go low we don't stoop to their level. We do not win elections by removing voting rights for those we disagree with - that is an authoritarian tactic.

[–] BunkerBusterKeaton@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

there isn't really any 'nobility' in 'taking the high road' while marginalized communities continue to get owned and killed. Trans kids are being targeted, women are being targeted, BIPOC are being targeted.

what good is civility? authoritarian leftism is the only way to get results

[–] Addica@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Using authoritarianism is a fast track to ensuring that new generations of people see leftism as the enemy, if they don't already feel that way.

Taking away agency of people doesn't create lasting social systems; the masses aren't inspired to uphold the values by fear of consequence alone. People en mass will never accept being told what to do if they feel it takes away their agency. If anything you only breed resistance and contempt for your system of choice.

Who would you even trust to have such power? How could they be expected to uphold their values? How do you know that authoritarian power can't/won't be corrupted? Are you going to allow the murder of others if it cast as 'just' in the eyes of that power?

Authoritarianism had its hour, and in that time blighted all it touched. If it weren't for authoritarian leftists muddying the waters of the term 'Communist', Id imagine we'd have seen a lot more societies adopting those ideas instead of equating 'communism' with authoritarianism and rejecting it outright

[–] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago

"sure, we let fascism run rampant over society, but that was the respectable thing to do"

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

What? Of course they should be allowed to vote, if you don't like it, leave the US

[–] TheMissingBit@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Democracy is bad when I don't get what I want. Interesting take.