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Here https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/12576832
It seems like the poll didn't run for more than 20 hours, that seems a bit short?
Yeah i was goingbto let it run for 2 days but as i was about to become busy and i thought 20 hours would cover most timezones i wrapped it up.
People are usually active at the same time every day (e.g. in the evening) so it's better to give it a few days.
I just finished my workday, yesterday at the same time the poll wasn't there, now it's closed.
Also be careful about vote propagation, here is the view from
https://discuss.tchncs.de/c/lemmyapps@lemmy.world
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !lemmyapps@lemmy.world
It must be an issue with federation try from sdf.org one if you want to see results.
https://sh.itjust.works/c/lemmyapps@lemmy.world shows similar numbers
https://lemm.ee/c/lemmyapps@lemmy.world too
How are you sure Lemmy.sdf.org is the correct one where two other main instances have different numbers?
Do you have the direct links to the same post at those instances? You might just be viewing the vote count from your instance at reddthat.com (which is fine but that's just the votes from your instance).
The votes at the community's home instance should be the correct ones e.g. whatever link that is at lemmy.world but I don't have that one either.
I use those links to see the votes on those instances, no need for the post link as you can see it from the community
Here it is, however: https://lemmy.world/post/12235423?scrollToComments=true
Just out of curiosity which app do you use ?
I use the default Lemmy ui on my phone browser
I don't know but as i hosted in that acc and people who federate with it can upvote it but the upvotes maybe missing ftom other inatances because of federation issues
That's probably what is happening. It might be a good idea to invalidate this poll as the results don't seem stable, and start another discussion to see if it even needs to happen.
I know you got this community recently, but you seem to be pushing for changes that are not supported by a majority of the community (be it 71-69 or 57-70)
It is not for any gains as i am not a dev or built any foss apps . I am just trying to help and motivate people to use better apps and tools. And it was 71- 65 when i wrapped the thread i think people from this thread ia contributing now.
See it from the community perspective.
I am pretty tolerant towards non FOSS clients for Lemmy. Sync and Boost allowed a lot of people to join Lemmy, and they still use those apps everyday.
I follow and sometimes contribute to the community because I think it's nice to have a central place to see the latest updates, FOSS or not. The community wasn't actively moderated, but people didn't care because the topic is pretty much conflict free
Then someone like you or another person jumps in and pushes for only FOSS to be allowed, while a post from a week ago about a Boost update has 34 upvotes and 4 downvotes.
We all want Lemmy to succeed, but we also have to accept opinions of other people in how to do so and manage this kind of cross-Lemmy communities
Link and sync aldready has their own big ass community i don't they are gonna miss this one .
Based in your poll, there is no clear agreement from the community on this.
There isn't but that is also what happened when i announced i am not gonna change it to foss only hence the poll
The poll which is evenly split, so not really giving any reason to change the current status of this community, which accepts both FOSS and non FOSS
Try from sdf.org instance which i hosted it on
You posted from sdf but the community is hosted on LW. I would trust that version over SDF
But that version is missing votes . And also sdf hasn't defederayed with any instances while .world has defedetated with some
At this moment, LW has 70 downvotes, SDF has 69, so one at least is missing.
SDF has 71 upvotes, so even with those numbers we can see the margin is very thin.
I don't think that counts as the people in this thread who doesn't like the choice is going there and down voting.
Well, isn't their vote as valid as someone who would upvote?
Pretty sure that vote count isn't correct. If I recall correctly the home instance of a community would have the total vote counts. When viewing a post from other instances you often just see the votes from users on that instance. I don't know when/if/how that propogates to keep vote counts the same across different instances (assuming it does, I don't think Lemmy devs place much value on tracking votes TBH).
What is the link to the post on lemmy.world itself, anyone have that?
e.g.
-14 votes https://lemmy.world/post/12235423
+1 vote https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/12576832
-12 votes https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/14852887
EDIT: Added lemmy.world, that should be the correct total vote count (thanks /u/Blaze@reddthat.com !)
Just for completion, here's my home instance: https://sh.itjust.works/post/14996406
At the time of posting this comment, I see:
| Instance | Upvotes | Downvotes | Net | |
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| | World | 57 | 71 | -14 | | SDF | 71 | 70 | +1 | | div by 0 | 58 | 70 | -12 | SJW | 57 | 70 | -13 |
Vote federation issues aside, even the most positive value (SDF) is only a narrow win for the upvote result, which is pretty much exactly what I predicted. This is before we even account for users for whom downvotes are not an option.
I also take issue with the poll being wrapped up prematurely. With the some fluctuation in the federation of votes, and the net number of votes hovering around zero, one could simply wait until the votes tipped in their favour, and close the poll at that time. I'm not saying this is what was done, just that it would be possible.
Thanks,
FYI, I raised the issue to the LW admins on !moderators@lemmy.world
https://lemmy.world/post/12235423?scrollToComments=true
Thanks!