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Similarly, the only time you would hear someone described as 'woke' just a few years ago is if one black person talked about another black person about being aware of racial injustice.
And then there was "social justice warrior," which, like antifa, is not actually a thing. But if it was, the #1 candidate would be their hero Jesus.
I've met a couple SJWs that were unhinged, but they weren't really violent and certainly not an organized terror group the the fucking Proud Boys
No you haven't, because "SJW" isn't a thing. It's an insult. And a stupid one.
And you clearly don't remember 2016. There were quite a few people parading around and correcting people's speech, which kinda led to this whole woke and anti woke stuff.
Ah yes. It was the people asking that maybe people should be more consciencous and to not be openly terrible who are to blame for it all...
Not the entitled asshats who puffed up their chests and screamed "You can't tell me what to do!" when someone told them "You're being kinda hurtful could you please stop? "
Here's the thing when your life sucks because people are being regularly being awful. Not mentioning anything and being quiet and meek and accepting of other people basically being a regular impingment on your ability to flourish or be comfortable doesn't change your circumstances. They are just gunna keep being awful and draining your batteries. Also those people flipped the fuck out over "hey maybe the way women are depicted in videogames is kind of male centric and kind of shit if you aren't a guy" and in response went on a terror campaign to literally ruin the lives of those who decided to mention that maybe they were dreaming of a better situation. That little over-reaction was not proportionate in scope.
Fighting for empathy is a hard business. The "anti-woke" can never truly win as what they seek to suppress will always be there. They must always exert force because that dissatisfaction and misery that underlies the asks won't go away... it can be silenced, rendered mute by fear and consequences of retaliation and stifled for another generation but the cost is that the boot must always be forced down because it's never quite able to eliminate that final resistance of people coming into existance who realize they aren't who society is built for and who have no option but to suffer. The people beneath the boot might be weakened temporarily as the fight ebbs and flows but the harder the boot comes down the deeper the dispair the more desperate the resistance.
Just the implications that people are unhappy does not sit well with the anti-woke crowd. They resent the idea that people's unhappiness is directly caused by them which rubs uncomfortably against their idea of the world as an ultimately fair place. Hence why they always argue that people are lying and exaggerating their discomfort. That the facts are wrong, that the people they are causing pain to deserve it somehow. It's all just lame dodges around the central issue. They are causing discomfort. They can choose to double down and cause more, ignore it or rationalize it or choose to believe that they as the truest form of being knows what's best for the people experiencing it- indeed better than the people who live that experience ... But they cannot end it.
The notion that what they are being asked to do won't individually impact them very much is something that they scoff at and then just ignore spaces where these adaptations have been successful. The landscape of gaming became a little more equitable after gamergate because some developers basically just realized that yeah, maybe they were undercutting women and changing formulas a little does kind of expand their market? Gamergate threw their tantrum but most of them barely registered that gaming still continued to service their needs while expanding it's service to others but because they were on to throwing a tantrum about something else they never really registered that what changed was... fine actually?
2016? It has been an insult since 2011 and Gamergate.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/10/07/why-social-justice-warrior-a-gamergate-insult-is-now-a-dictionary-entry/
Before that it was a very rarely-used term that was occasionally positive but usually neutral.
It's not a thing.
Do please provide evidence that antifa exists.
Which Antifa chapter is she a member of? Who is the leader of that chapter? Do they have a website? If not, how do you join?
Interesting that the article you pasted explains none of that, yet insists antifa is real based on "this person says they're antifa."
So can you answer those questions? If not- how is it a real thing?
Antifa is a movement without centralized control. There are no chapters, website, or membership. That is core to the movement, so questioning why no one can provide that information is really silly.
I also have never met a member of Antifa, but there is enough evidence of their actions to make me certain the movement exists. Some people believe it exists, but as a false-flag movement, but I think that's just conspiratorial thinking.
Using, "I've never seen one," as evidence is the kind of BS Jan6 insurrections use to say the election was stolen.
So it's a movement with no leaders, no chapters, no website, no membership... do they get together and organize? If so, how do they know when and where to go?
When fascists announce they’re going to march you just show up to oppose them. And in that opposition to facism you are antifa. And when you go home you aren’t anymore. You’re just someone who has opposed fascists until the jackasses try again.
Wait... so you're saying antifa is "anyone who opposes a fascist?"
Because, that kind of sounds like it's not a thing.
You seem to think that there are two concepts- "fascism" and "anti-fascism." There aren't. There's fascism and then there's everything else.
There is no antifa. There's just everyone who isn't a fascist that isn't going to let them get away with running roughshod over their country.
What do I know, I only have a history of direct action as an anarchist.
Antifa is a set of tactics and actions done specifically in opposition to fascist organizing. That lady who died at Charlottesville died being antifa.
There have been people who engaged in antifa before the modern fascism problem. The need is rising. Some will claim that label and when they do it’s their right as long as they do what it says on the tin. It’s a lot like food not bombs in that way. You aren’t FNB because you gave away free vegan food, but you don’t have to get permission to use that label if you’re giving away free vegan food and there’s no organization or hierarchy. It’s just a thing you can do and a label you can claim in the doing.
The problem is that it’s been demonized and used as a label for those not claiming it. But head on down to your local punk scene and there’s probably someone with an antifa patch who may very well have punched a Nazi
Again, you are suggesting that there are these positions: Fascism and anti-fascism. This also implies a third, neutral, position.
There is fascism, and there is everyone else. Everyone but fascists are 'antifa.' It's a meaningless word which is just used to demonize people and you are, I assume unwittingly, being used to make fascism sound less extreme by making opposing it sound more extreme.
There is passive anti fascism and active anti fascism. That’s the point here. Most people are passively anti fascist. At different points different people will be driven towards becoming actively anti fascist. For me it was the echoes of Charlottesville and the kkk marching near my home.
Fascism is the most extreme anti human stance. Active anti fascism is noble rather than extreme. It is noble like feeding the hungry. Everyone should be able to agree that it is the right thing to do, and we should be proud of all who do it, but it can be difficult and inconvenient or any number of other things can get in the way rather than it being “too extreme”. And in fact plenty of non radical people do celebrate acts of anti fascist action in our modern era. That gif of Richard Spencer being punched is something most folks lack the courage to do but can acknowledge that it’s right and good.
The hit on antifa is a specific disinformation campaign by right wing media. It’s akin to their attacks on blm. Trying to portray loose resistance to fascist organizing as the left wing equivalent to the proud boys instead of just normal people opposing fascists and deciding to make that opposition material.
Can you please explain the mechanism of this "word of mouth?" Are people privately emailing each other? Is this all clandestine?