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[–] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 93 points 8 months ago (4 children)

In this day and age, the ISP should also be on the list of things classified as "utilities" - it's getting harder and harder to do anything useful without the internet. It's become an essential service.

[–] Deello@lemm.ee 24 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The governments treatment of ISPs has made other industries reconsider how they do business. Utilities as we know them will be going away soon. How long before USPS is sold?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'm shocked DeJoy hasn't managed to already.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

It's because he'd have to face the Letter Carriers union, in an organized labor market that has gotten extremely militant with strike culture

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

USPS fan here. BIG time fan.

There will be riots in the streets before the postal service is privatized. Who will go for that?

Democrats don't want it. Country Republican voters would be outraged in minutes if their service was cut off or the price spiked. Those voters will notice fast. And they'll take note faster than city people. LOL, their mailperson may be the one government official they know personally, and count on.

We're talking about a gigantic federal agency, gigantic. The USPS is simply too important to be fucked with. Anymore than we have already...

[–] HotDogFingies@kbin.social 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

My dumbass Republican father wants to do away with USPS entirely and rely solely on existing private businesses, such as FedEx or UPS.

He lives in Tucson, AZ. So, not exactly country. But he's fucking stupid.

[–] fed0sine@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

I completely understand your experience. I am a resident of Tucson and we seem to be a bastion of purple in the sea of red that is Arizona.

There are plenty of InfoWarrior rides and the occasional coal-roller can be found cruising the streets.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

normally I'd completely agree with you.... but... DeJoy has been hatefucking the USPS for 4 years and we can't seem to get rid of him - conservatives or libs. so....

I dunno what the fuck to do, I just know nothing so far has worked.

[–] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 7 points 8 months ago

OMG that motherfucker needs a SPECIAL DELIVERY.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

we can’t seem to get rid of him

Yes, its crazy how a pair of Presidents that seem to viscerally hate public services can't seem to get rid of a guy who is dismantling one of our largest.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Trump shat on everything he touched so that's easy enough; where do you see Biden ' viscerally hate public services '? fucker rode amtrak for decades.

come on provide examples of your premise because this smacks of bullllshiiiit.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

fucker rode amtrak for decades.

And yet he was behind Obama's federal policy of expanding for-profit charter schools, particularly in low income neighborhoods, at the expense of public school funding. He backed USPS Reforms that have kicked off even more layoffs and cuts than under Trump. He's further privatizing Medicare, transferring tens of billions in health care spending to private equity balance sheets.

The only public sector service Biden seems to like, other than Amtrak (which is getting is own privatization push regardless), are cops. Motherfucker loves throwing more money at the police.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

first off, great user name.

second, dude lead with the facts instead of burying them in the responses, these are solid points.

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Country Republican voters would be outraged in minutes if their service was cut off or the price spiked.

What you're missing here is that it takes a little while for things to go to shit. What you do as a smart conservative (bit of an oxymoron, I admit) is implement this towards the end of your term so that the effect will come when the democrat is in power in the next term.

[–] Deello@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

"In order to stop the Democrats from trying to steal another election by mail in ballots we will be shutting down the USPS and replacing it with a bigger more better delivery service. Why try to kick out the crooked left when we can't start fresh with the best deliver-ers of packages and mail in the business. Only the finest of delivery men and women that believe in true American values."

-Trump probably

I agree with what you're saying but I also feel you are underestimating how gullible the base is AND how determined the GOP is to pass things once in power. They prefer the slow boil method.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

How long before USPS is sold?

Or just scrapped so that Amazon can consume the balance of the market share.

[–] memfree@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago
[–] Raxiel@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Last mile at least, with equal access rules in the exchange

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world -5 points 8 months ago

Much as I don't like ISPs, and I've worked for a few, in the field and on the phones, I shudder to think of our government running one. Yes, they should absolutely be classed as utilities. But I don't want the government involved in actual operations. That's a nightmare in 12 different ways.

It's a weird business space. Despite being a monopoly in most American markets, they keep expanding service, for no extra cost. I have no idea why they're doing this.

I live on the edge of town in a redneck suburb. No reason to improve service out here, they're the only real game in town. Yet I keep getting faster and faster speeds for no extra cost.

Anyone know what's driving improvements without competition? Or is there competition I'm not seeing?