this post was submitted on 21 Feb 2024
570 points (98.1% liked)

politics

19097 readers
3386 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Maybe vote to stop genocide of people in the country in which you live over a genocide that would happen whether or not Biden was in office because Trump would support it too.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Show me the current genocide of queer people in america.

Show me 1000’s of queer people being starved, left without power, medical help, water.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Show me the current genocide of queer people in america.

The same place the genocide of queer people in Germany was in 1932. Do you know what happened in 1933? Do you know what happened between 1933 and 1945?

But please, do tell me who I should vote for that has a statistically likely chance of winning the U.S. presidential election in November and will also definitely end the genocide in Israel. Give me that name.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Idgaf who you vote for.

Once again, you do you, but don’t come to me wanting my vote to help you re-elect Ol’ Genocidin Biden.

I’m not here to stop you, I am here to make sure everyone realizes they are supporting someone who has ACTIVELY helped Israel commit genocidal actions.

Not passively, he bypassed congress twice already to send them more fucking shells.

You are once again hung up on what someone might do compared to what they know someone else is doing.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Idgaf who you vote for.

Because you don't care about queer people.

but don’t come to me wanting my vote to help you re-elect Ol’ Genocidin Biden.

Because you don't care about queer people.

You are once again hung up on what someone might do compared to what they know someone else is doing.

I'm sure you think that because you don't care about queer people.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

After the first 20 times you use that excuse it stops working.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It's not an excuse, it's a fact.

You think a moral victory that will in no way stop any genocides is more important than stopping a potential genocide that is just as possible as what happened in Germany in 1933.

You do know what happened in Germany in 1933, right?

For example, in May, this happened: https://www.hmd.org.uk/resource/6-may-1933-looting-of-the-institute-of-sexology/

And by 1939- before the Holocaust, before war even broke out, there were tens of thousands fewer gay men alive in Germany than there had been in 1932.

Did you even know about any of that that? Probably not since you don't give a shit about queer people.

But in 1932, you would have told me that's okay because even if Hitler does get in, queer people and the people that love them shouldn't worry about any potential genocide, and besides, Paul von Hindenburg did nothing about Stalin's genocide in the Ukraine and maintained friendly relations with Stalin, so if you vote for Hindenburg, you vote for genocide.

And yes, I am comparing the guy who kept a book of Hitler speeches by his bedside and quotes Mein Kampf to Hitler.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's your only response to everything I wrote, huh?

Well that certainly proves that you don't give a shit about queer people. Even if you call that obvious fact an excuse.

By the way, "excuse" is an interesting word to use. It implies that it is, indeed, true that you don't give a shit about queer people, but I'm only bringing that up to cover for something else.

Wonder why you would use that word?

Is it because you don't give a shit about queer people?

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My friend, I use the word excuse in relation to you.

It implies that I don’t believe that you actually care this much and are using it to help you excuse your poor behavior( supporting candidates who are actively supporting genocidal actions against children) by saying “Look how much I care about this, just ignore every other flaw in my argument because of this big gay rights flag I am flying.”

I can’t believe I have to say this AGAIN!!!

Fuck The stupid fucking Cheeto in chief. He supports bad policies.

Fuck unlimited support for Israel Biden. He assists in others committing genocidal actions.

They both have flaws, they both don’t give a shit about brown people( Trump obviously, but “You ain’t black” Biden as well)

They both say they support genocidal actions.

Biden might be better, but he isn’t good enough.

We deserve better and every single time you VBNMW you drive us further away from a future in which your daughter does not have to worry.

You are driving them farther and farther and farther right every time you support them regardless of what they do.

Why do they give a fuck what you think, they can just take it a little later with way less fight, one step at a time.

Let them know that if they don’t get on board they won’t get power.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The whole phrase 'bypassing Congress' is propaganda. It's literal weapons sales. Those are not required to go through Congress. I disagree with those sales, but what he's doing is perfectly legal and not backhanded.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is legal, it is backhanded, and to add onto it. I believe he ran it by Congress later on, and they okayed it.

That doesn’t change the fact that he did it, and bypassed congressional oversight.

We can’t be OK with someone else being what we don’t want them to be this because they’re on our side.

If you don’t call out your own side, just as much as you call anyone else’s, then it just doesn’t matter.

Why are we all calling out Israel so much but aren’t surprised at what Hamas?

Because one is so obvious that it doesn’t need to be fucking done, and the other is people that we thought were going to be better than that being so much worse than we thought they were.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

I am not saying it's okay. In fact, in the comment you replied to, I said I don't approve.

We need laws to prevent this sort of action.