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[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

People can also cause insane amounts of damage, that doesn't mean it's the norm. I'm sorry about your brother's property, but that's not a reason to allow banning of pets. Nightmare tenants (or squatters) exist, it's just the gamble taken for renting out an investment property. Most pet owners take care of their pets and have no serious problems, after all, they're actually living with the results of their pet care.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As someone who works in pest control and spends a lot of time in people's houses, especially those that are nasty and need my services, I assure you, most people live with the results of not only their lack of pet care, but their own. I've seen some shit and there's more nasty fucking people than you think. They don't even know they're nasty either, like it's my fault they have roach issues because they haven't admittedly cleaned their house in 17 years. (Not exaggerating)

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You've got a sampling bias, because, as you mention, one of the main reasons people need your services is because they're nasty, and anything serious enough to impact the apartment's value is well outside of even that norm. Most people absolutely do not simply let their pets pee wherever they want, because they don't want to live that way.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

True, but plenty of these people are quite well off and just simply don't notice it. I have a lot of clients who aren't actually nasty but their habits are. As the saying goes, it takes all kinds, I guess.

Not denying I have a sampling bias, but I've seen plenty of people who just seem oblivious to their lifestyle choices.

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I installed internet into people houses for fifteen years. My sample is pretty broad. It is far nastier than most people realize. There majority is decent but it would be close to one in ten is very nasty then another one in ten that will have nice common 'public guest ' areas but when their basement and different story. It is really hard to tell from the outside and often the people seem normal. Hording is really common but then you get hording wet garbage as well.

[–] snuff@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I think it's a perfect reason to ban pets.

I do not owe you the house I paid for. You have to apply for it like everyone else and agree to the terms of my lease. If you don't like it, literally rent from anyone else, but you are not entitled to my property. Peroid.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I do not owe you the house I paid for.

Even small-time landlords are not typically paying for the house. They're just considered a better loan risk than the tenants.

[–] snuff@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I said that in the past tense for a reason. I paid off my house before moving and renting it out. That's not the bank's house, that's my house, and you are still not entitled to it.

And let me be clear, I don't care what the law is, I will continue to discriminate against my applicants for any reason that suits me. Do you have dogs, too many kids, or job hop too often? Then your application is going in the trash. I don't fucking need you, so come right if you're going to come at all.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you don't agree with the terms society requires of landlords you are free to sell the property and invest in something else.

[–] snuff@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Bitch please. We are the society. Look at the god damn rent prices and tell me again what "we as a society" value.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

We value landlords and existing homeowners wealth over the ability for people to live their lives.

[–] snuff@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Some of you soft bitches need to hear this. The world doesn't owe you sht. Fight for what you need, but blame yourself if you fail.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

-- a landlord who feels entitled to half your paycheck for sitting on his ass

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Except you actually don't get to unilaterally decide who can live in your house. You can't ban black people, you can't ban children, you can't ban the handicapped. And soon, if you live in California, you may not be able to ban pets. You live in a society, with rules for what you can and cannot do with the real estate you own.

[–] snuff@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And how do you realistically plan to enforce that? I have 100 applicants a month for 1 house that has never been vacant. If the current tennant ever decides to leave, how can you expect anyone to pick a potentially bad tennant when a potentially good one has the same right?