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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

During the Sanremo italian music festival, a Singer said "stop genocide"

Immediately the Israeli embassador tweeted "it's shameful that the stage was exploited to spread hatred"

And all the (far right) government people followed with "we express our solidarity with the Israeli people", with a mandatory letter read by the host during a Sunday show.

First, the singer literally just said "stop genocide" without mentioning the country. There are so many genocides happening right now. Sudan, Armenia, Ukraine. You think it's talking about your country because it's doing that?

Second, how saying "don't kill each other" is "spreading hatred"

Third, it was really shameful that in the letter that the host was forced to read there was solidarity only to the Israeli people and not the other people that is still being bombed right now. It's because they're dark skinned and poor, so we're not caring about them?

[–] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's because they're dark skinned and poor, so we're not caring about them?

most israelis have the same skin color as most palestinians..

[–] roastedDeflator@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

most israelis have the same skin color as most palestinians…

No. A small percentage of Jewish people have been living there. Most went to the place that had the historical toponym Palestine from all over the world with the various waves of Zionist settler-colonialism in the last 100 years, approximately.

Also, Judaism is a religion that someone can convert into. Almost anyone, to almost any of its forms that is. So let's leave the skin colors of Israelis out of the conversation in relation to Palestinians. Please.

An interesting article relevant article from Haaretz They Didn't Want Ethiopian Jews in Israel, Either

[–] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

you do realize a large part of israeli jews came back from arab countries? yemenite jews, iraqi, iranian, etc.
their skin color isn't white.

So let's leave the skin colors of Israelis out of the conversation in relation to Palestinians. Please.

that was the point of my comment.. the skin color is irrelevant

[–] roastedDeflator@kbin.social -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

a large part of israeli jews came back from arab countries

I wouldn't call it large. Check out in this article the pi chart called
Figure 2: New immigrants in Israel according to country of origin, 2006 (bpb) Lizenz: cc by-nc-nd/2.0/de

Of course if you have a source that says otherwise, I'd be happy to take a look at it.

[–] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizrahi_Jews_in_Israel (you can find the sources referenced there)

61% of israeli jews in 2005. 50.2% in 2009.
and that's with all former-ussr jews counted as ashkenazi jews, despite some of them actually being mizrahi (bukharan jews and mountain jews).

[–] roastedDeflator@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I see your point. The percentages of the zionist migrations during last century are one thing, let's say. The percentages of the current population is another story.

Personally, I totally don't trust wiki in relation to its content on the matter so I will use another source that I do trust: the Jewish Voice for Peace FACT SHEET from 2015. Of course they have different and more recent percentages but this does not affect the point. Amongst other very interesting things they say:

Of 7 million Israelis, 35-40% are Mizrahim, 15% are Russian immigrants, 20% are Palestinian Israelis, 2.2% are Ethiopian, and 25-30% are Ashkenazi Jews and others. This means 55-60% of the Israeli population is ‘nonwhite’; together, Mizrahim and Palestinian Israelis form a majority.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

and poor

And most Israelis don't live in an open air prison where they have to bank on foreign aid to survive. Aid that's denied to them because they're being rounded up and holocausted.