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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Your comment sounds like it's justifying killing 2 civilians for everyone 1 soldier. Even assuming your number is correct, it doesn't really matter. It's just as bad.

[–] mellowheat@suppo.fi -5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Hamas is partly to blame for the following reasons:

  1. They use human shield tactics

  2. They haven't built bomb shelters (edit: for civilians)

  3. They have no civilian evacuation plans

  4. They appear to actively stop people from evacuating

Also, the population density in Gaza is one of the highest ones in the world. Which is really nobody's fault I guess, but makes the number of civilian deaths worse, especially given the above 4 points.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Did you really say "they didn't build bomb shelters"? Are you ok?

[–] mellowheat@suppo.fi -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I should've written: "They haven't built bomb shelters for civilians"

Is it shocking to learn this? It seems so absurd that you cannot believe it?

I kinda agree.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

How do you expect Hamas to build bomb shelters? Setting aside how Israel has bunker busters and has been using them in Gaza, because of Israel's blockade things that you'd normally need to make a bomb shelter (or any decent structure) are unavailable. It's to the point UNRWA is teaching Gazans how to build houses using mud.

[–] mellowheat@suppo.fi 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

How do you expect Hamas to build bomb shelters?

In the exact same way as they build bomb shelters for their soldiers? Probably not optimal for civilians, but better than nothing.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

But can those shelters house the ridiculous amount of civilians in Gaza? I don't see how they could build these things at a large enough scale to house Gazan civilians, not to mention they'd be bombed first thing because they're "Hamas headquarters". At least Israel can't use bunker busters on hospitals and UN schools (hopefully).