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Fox News reported on some new presidential rankings, which purportedly show Barack Obama as the #6 president in U.S. history and Donald Trump dead last, and MAGA was not happy.

Fox News on Sunday posted an article about the new rankings by the Presidential Greatness Project, which Fox describes as "a group of self-styled experts." It states that Abraham "Lincoln topped the list of presidents in the 2024 Presidential Greatness Project expert survey for the third time, following his top spot in the rankings in the 2015 and 2018 versions of the survey."

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"Rounding out the top five in the rankings were Franklin Delano Roosevelt at number two, George Washington at three, Theodore Roosevelt at four, and Thomas Jefferson at five," according to the report. "Trump was ranked in last place in the survey, being ranked worse than James Buchanan at 44, Andrew Johnson at 43, Franklin Pierce at 42, and William Henry Harrison at 41."

The report states that Obama and Joe Biden "ranked an average of 6th and 13th, respectively, among Democrat respondents, and 15th and 30th by Republicans."

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 83 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Raw Story is garbage. Not because it's partizan, but because it's lazy.

"MAGA freaks out..." is 3 people responding to a fox news tweet identified by their twitter handle, another who's not even identified that way, and some other rando who doesn't agree. That's it, that's the story.

IDK what kind of sweatshop the reporters working for that outlet are laboring under, but there is nothing in this "article" that couldn't be hammered out in 10 min on a smartphone.

Just because it's lefty garbage, doesn't mean it's not garbage.

[–] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Step 1: Put out outrageous conspiracy theories or policies on twitter
Step 2: Wait for crazies to comment and create a high engagement shitstorm
Step 3: Now you can reference those outrageous things on mainstream media
...
Step 4: Profit
Step 5: Armageddon

[–] Pratai@lemmy.cafe 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

And so it is on lemmy as well. Don’t believe me? Check out Hexbear or .ml or lemmygrad. Same rage, different flavor.

[–] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Check out Hexbear or

Ah damn you, I've been banned already just for viewing your comment!

[–] Pratai@lemmy.cafe 4 points 7 months ago

ROFL! I wouldn’t be surprised.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

Narrator: it was actually the exact same flavor

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

so it is on lemmy as well

Painting an entire federation with the actions of its worst is fun. It's like how all americans are Ted Bundy.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.cafe 1 points 7 months ago

Isn’t that the same thing as saying ACAB?

Painting all of a thing the same color because of A portion of a thing is never a great idea, but here it’s implied I’m not talking about everyone that uses it. Just the loudest part and the part that had the authority to remove those they disagree with.

Which is pretty much the same as cops.

[–] arc@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

That is basically the schtick that every tabloid and every partisan site puts out. Visit the Daily Mail (actuall don't) and every other story is some garbage from social media that they've decided to turn into click bait.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.cafe 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Manufactured outrage is the new thing though. Without it- I’m pretty sure lemmy would be a ghost town.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ummm..... It's not new. Noam Chompsky may have gone off the deep end here in the last few years, but he had a point when he wrote that book in 1988, about events that happened between ≈1960 till ≈1980. This is a well known political strategy that has been used by multiple countries since 1898 when William Randolph Hearst declared, "You furnish the pictures, I'll furnish the war."

The only real "new" part is that we now have the ability to network so inefficiently that we constantly form echo chambers, emboldening the fringe elements, allowing them to connect to each other extremely efficiently, and maybe allowing the people that are supposed to be watching, to actually watch. I suspect the last part is severely corrupted though.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

there is nothing in this “article” that couldn’t be hammered out in 10 min on a smartphone.

Bonus points if this article was published while on the can.

Sad thing is: it's generating clicks regardless of how crap the article is, because that title is just so bait-y. :(