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Christians think gay people are trying to convert people to being gay because Christians try to convert people to being Christian. (lemmy.ca)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by someguy3@lemmy.ca to c/general@lemmy.world

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Christians literally go door to door: "Knock Knock Knock. Have you found Christianity? I've chosen a christian way of life and I think it's a great way of life. I think you should choose to be christian. I think you should raise your children to be christian. I think we should teach christianity in school. I think we should elect christian leaders. I think we should have a christian society."

So they think gay people go around going: "Knock Knock Knock. Have you found gayness? I've chosen a gay way of life and it's a great way of life. I think you should choose to be gay. I think you should raise your children to be gay. I think we should teach gayness in school. I think we should elect gay leaders. I think we should have a gay society."

Which is of course as ridiculous as thinking: "Knock Knock Knock. Have you found left-handedness? I've chosen a left-handed way of life and it's a great way of life. I think you should choose to be left-handed. I think you should raise your children to be left-handed. I think we should teach left-handedness in school. I think we should elect left-handed leaders. I think we should have a left-handed society."

(Now it's not just gay, it's trans too.)

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I suspect that our home grown American and Christian homophobia is not Christian-based at all. People don’t like the thing that is different or icky, and instead of being introspective about why that is or if it’s the right thing to do, they see that the Bible or their preacher agree. Then it’s time to turn off the thought process and just go with it.

It’s just a happy little evil coincidence. Typical biblical cherry picking being spoon fed to the base. Funny how little discussion they have about how the Bible has instructions for abortions and how to treat your slaves.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Christian homophobia is not Christian-based at all. People don’t like the thing that is different

It’s just a happy little evil coincidence.

It's not. It's an inherent quality in Abrahamic monotheistic religions.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_monotheism#Violence_in_monotheism

The intolerance of narrow monotheism is written in letters of blood across the history of man from the time when first the tribes of Israel burst into the land of Canaan. The worshippers of the one jealous God are egged on to aggressive wars against people of alien [beliefs and cultures]. They invoke divine sanction for the cruelties inflicted on the conquered. The spirit of old Israel is inherited by Christianity and Islam, and it might not be unreasonable to suggest that it would have been better for Western civilization if Greece had moulded it on this question rather than Palestine.

— Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan

Christianity is inherently intolerant (see the 10 commandments).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh I wasn’t suggesting that Christianity was off the hook. It’s just that people do not require religion to be bigots.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Oh, so, perhaps... something along the lines of:

With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion. — Steven Weinberg

..?