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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Lame if true. The switch is painfully underpowered at this point.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It was painfully underpowered when it launched. The SoC in it was already 2 years old, the Switch is basically a mid-range smartphone from 2015 that launched in 2017.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't the SOCs in Xbox and PlayStation also old on launch.

It takes a fuckton of time to make hardware like that.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The SoCs in the Xbox One and PS4 both use highly custom AMD Jaguar SoCs with more powerful graphics capability than AMD included in their home release version of their Jaguar APUs. The Jaguar architecture launched mid-2013. The Xbox One and PS4 both launched in November 2013.

Compared to the Switch, which uses a slightly modified nVidia Tegra X1 chip, that is actually underclocked. The nVidia Shield TV was more powerful as it did not underclock the X1 chip (Switch is about 780Mhz (docked BTW, an undocked Switch runs at a measly 300MHz) while Shield TV is 1Ghz). The Tegra X1 launched in 2015, and the Switch launched in 2017.

[–] IONLYpost@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

More ridiculously some rumours are saying that the Tegra in the new switch would use Samsung 8N process. Well, Yuzu fans might simply stick with their Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 then.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago

I've got a bridge to sell you - if you think the Switch 2 isn't going to be criminally underpowered.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Depends, the faves that are made purely for it in mind are great in my opinion. Animal Crossing, mario odyssey and wonder and the like. All look great and run great.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I agree, but they will undoubtedly be able to do more with more capable hardware. I was also disappointed by the switch’s relative lack of gimmicks beyond its hybrid nature. I miss streetpass, Miiverse, etc. I hope they can get back to some of that on the next gen hardware.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm kinda glad it's devoid of gimmicks. A lot of them felt like it was just Nintendo was putting them in there for the sake of having gimmicks.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

I do really miss dual screen gaming though. The assymetrical stuff that the wii u did was A tier and its not been replicated anywhere without the need of a second independent device. Also Mass Effect 3 on the wii u was the best version because of the gamepad. It was great not only having a map at all times but also being able to issue commands without having to go into that wheel menu that slowed the game down.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Oh man this just isn't for me, I hate how gimmicky everything Nintendo touches is.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I also agree. I hope the really blow it out of the water with both power and bringing back some of that ol' nintendo charm. Switch feels very lonely with how clinical it is.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean they had Labo, but they kinda did it half heartedly, instead of creating actual accessories. Being made of cardboard was kind of a shame.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

I liked the idea, but it was expensive for what it was even if technically it was the right price for the parts cause it wasn't just any old standard cardboard. I do think they should've kept going with it though

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

A handheld that can play real 3D games was a hell of a selling point. It basically single handedly made the Steam Deck happen.

They also have ring fit and labo.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Weren't there some troubles with Zelda? I think BOTW? The hardware wasn't capable enough and it got all choppy in some parts of the world.

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it got pretty bad. Don't get me wrong, it's amazing that totk and botw runs as well as it does, but I consider it a tragedy that neither game is allowed to run at it's full potential.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Run it on PC and it can run at 60fps. You don't even need a super computer.

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago

Look yes and that's how I played my last botw run, but we're in the age of 4k60fps on every other console, devs having to hold back their vision because they have to develop for a 2015 smartphone in a fancy box is just a bit silly.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Botw was a wii u game that's why. Both versions have different pros and cons performance wise and i think that's because of the change of scope and systems and whatnot so i don't think that's a fair example. And because of that i think it also extends to totk somewhat since it's building on top of that already slightly shoddy foundation

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What the hell? That's a game published and developed by Nintendo for a platform created by Nintendo. There literally can't be anything more fair. Witcher 3 runs better on Switch than a 1st party game.

TOTK is not only 1st party game, it's also made for Switch only, so even your weird argument doesn't hold.

Seriously, stop fanboying so much, this is ridiculous.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The wii u in some ways was more powerful than the switch is what I was saying. And because BOTW was initially a Wii U game (the switch game being a port) and it was intended to push the wii u to the absolute limits at the time. TOTK is just using the exact same engine as BOTW, even though TOTK is a game solely designed for the Switch, it's still using a lot of code that was initially intended for the Wii U.

BOTW and TOTK are more comparable to the third party games being pared down to fit on such a small device after being made for much more powerful hardware initially, like the Witcher 3 and whatnot.

And even though Witcher 3 does run really well. Still looks like it's covered in vaseline compared to its other console versions.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 months ago

Yes BOTW and TOTK drop down to single digit frames every single time you activate your special powers. Or which you do a fucking lot.

It plays so much better on PC that it is shameful.

I wish Nintendo would cut the crap and just sell software - what they're good at.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 8 months ago

Weren't there some troubles with Zelda? I think BOTW? The hardware wasn't capable enough and it got all choppy in some parts of the world.