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e; I wrote a better headline than the ABC editors decided to and excerpted a bit more

According to the poll, conducted using Ipsos' Knowledge Panel, 86% of Americans think Biden, 81, is too old to serve another term as president. That figure includes 59% of Americans who think both he and former President Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner, are too old and 27% who think only Biden is too old.

Sixty-two percent of Americans think Trump, who is 77, is too old to serve as president. There is a large difference in how partisans view their respective nominees -- 73% of Democrats think Biden is too old to serve but only 35% of Republicans think Trump is too old to serve. Ninety-one percent of independents think Biden is too old to serve, and 71% say the same about Trump.

Concerns about both candidates' ages have increased since September when an ABC News/Washington Post poll found that 74% of Americans thought Biden -- the oldest commander in chief in U.S. history -- was too old to serve another term as president, and 49% said the same about Trump.

Archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20240214133801/https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/poll-americans-on-biden-age/story?id=107126589

Part that drew my eye,

The poll also comes days after the Senate failed to advance a bipartisan foreign aid bill with major new border provisions.

Americans find there is blame to go around on Congress' failure to pass legislation intended to decrease the number of illegal crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border -- with about the same number blaming the Republicans in Congress (53%), the Democrats (51%) and Biden (49%). Fewer, 39%, blame Trump.

More Americans trust that Trump would do a better job of handling immigration and the situation at the border than Biden -- 44%-26% -- according to the poll.

So that bipartisan border bill stunt was terrible policy, and it doesn't seem to have done anything for the Democratic party politically

Can we please stop trying to compromise with fascists now?

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[–] dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] dvtt@lemmings.world 6 points 8 months ago (5 children)

this is why 3rd parties don't exist. people pick colors instead of people

[–] zammy95@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Most people who are blue no matter who would gladly vote for 3rd parties if they were at all feasible. Republicans don't care who they're voting for as long as they have an R. If third parties enter the mix, only the left gets hurt

[–] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

VERY well put! Right on.

[–] dvtt@lemmings.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The libertarian party has consistently been the largest 3rd party and primarily draws in voters from the republican party... so I think you're overestimating the republican party's voter loyalty

[–] zammy95@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I know a lot of Republican voters who say they are libertarians. But when it comes to presidential election time, their 3rd party guy didn't do nearly as well as the other two during the primaries, and there's a red vs blue option, I'm sure you could guess who they vote for.

[–] dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago

No it isn't. It's a natural extension of our election mechanics.

here's a good video: https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo?si=3eRKyXexwk4TDd6n

[–] kofe@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Well yeah, if we don't have something like ranked choice voting tf you think we should do? Let fascists win?

[–] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Give me a 3rd party candidate that is worth my vote and I’ll gladly vote for him/her/them. But not during a time when we’re facing the complete and total destruction of democracy as we know it if we don’t show up and support the one person that has a chance at giving us another 4 years to fight.

This is NOT the time to play with 3rd party options.

[–] itsJoelle@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I’d hear you — but the alternative is a fucking yikes my guy.

Things are getting a little wild down here in Florida with no signs of slowing down.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

No, but also yes?

I'd vote for a progressive Republican. As if that's ever going to happen.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

That's an oxymoron.

[–] SolarMech@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago

Don't tempt the fates. You will get this, but everything else will be worse.

Trust me. Don't temp the fates.

[–] dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

I mean, blue no matter who doesn't really mean forever.

Where things stand, there is no scenario where Republicans will ever do a better job than Democrats. Voting progressive needs to happen during primaries.