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according to @Custoslibera’s post

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[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I stand corrected, though it says a lot that I believed that there would be a group from the left making that claim.

[–] TimeNaan@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes, says a lot about where you source your information and that you don't fact check enough.

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Nobody fact checks enough. I'm sure you're wrong about things every day. There's no shame in admitting I was wrong, so cool your jets.

Case and point: your claim liberal ≠ leftist.

You're wrong about that. I'm not going to hang shit on you for being wrong, but it is hypocritical.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Case in point.

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 2 points 7 months ago

Neat.

I always figured it as "this is my case, and my point"

Thanks!

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You're wrong about that.

No I'm not. Google could've told you that.

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I did google it (well, duckduckgo) and the definition is the one I've been posting. By the primary definition, liberal does mean progressive in every way.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I've got a news flash for you, bud: dictionary definitions don't tell you everything.

Here is the first DuckDuckGo result for "liberal vs leftist"

Please read it and get back to me

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

This discusses the political liberal parties in a US/british context.

The liberal parties do not hold the beliefs as defined below.

Which of these are not leftist ideals?

  • Favoring reform
  • Open to new ideas
  • Tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others
  • Not bound by traditional thinking
[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What you are describing is progressivism, which is a rather broad umbrella encompassing both leftism and liberalism. Since it's apparently my job to explain this to you, leftists think the rich should pay their fair share whereas liberals are pretty fond of billionaires all things considered.

Here's the second DDG result for the same query. I find it answers the question much more satisfactorily

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 1 points 7 months ago

What I'm describing is liberal ideology, as it is what the definition of liberal is when you look it up.

This is my last post responding to the definition of what liberal is, I don't care any more.