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[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 61 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] bort@feddit.de 25 points 9 months ago

I like that they bring up all these informations, just to conclude, that neo-liberalism would be the solution (instead of the problem).

[–] Sanity_in_Moderation@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They don't actually answer that question. It's like they're building to a huge reveal, and then it just stops. Unless I missed it completely.

Edit. Never mind. It's just a bitcoin pump. What a waste.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Vietnam and feminism. Mostly feminism.

Women joining the workforce in huge numbers increased the labor pool without significantly changing the demand for goods or services. Thats basic supply and demand.

Owner class played the long game on that movement. Boiling a frog.

Nothing wrong with women working. And I’m not saying women can’t work.

All I’m saying is that we’re all complaining about needing two working adults in a household to survive, while simultaneously renting two adult bodies per household to the owner class.

I’m not saying how to fix it. I have no idea how to fix it. A massive strike sounds adequate, at least 35-50% of the workforce. Never going to happen though, because most of them need two incomes. Pretty shitty.

[–] lledrtx@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How do you explain the concentration of wealth in the owner class, then? There are plenty of plots showing that in that website.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That’s a separate issue.

Most of the 1% don’t have their value on cash or from wages. It’s all a giant scattered portfolio, funded largely by loans against stocks which make up most of their compensation. Most of the portfolio cannot be easily liquidated, at least not in large amounts, without serious rippling effects in the economy.

The problem comes in being able to place loans against stocks to fund future investments. In theory, it’s a high-risk, high-reward opportunity that’s available to all. It could be a great mechanism for middle-class stock owners to build a comfortable nest egg…but instead what’s left of the middle class has whatever stocks they own in their 401k and if they did have other stocks, the risk is far too great to be palatable to most of them. At the scale of billionaires, though, putting a few million worth of stocks as collateral for a loan to start a new company is practically Monopoly money.

CEO salary is interesting. Most of the big salaries that get people pissed off are in the S&P500. Those salaries are insanely high, far higher than they should be.

It is worth considering, though, that the S&P 500 are some of the largest and most powerful companies in the world. It does deserve some sort of an exceptional wage to be responsible for steering those ships. Not hundreds of millions, probably not even tens of millions, but the CEOs are the figureheads of companies directly responsible for the livelihoods of millions of people, not just their employees but entire economies.

Thats an insane amount of pressure, and ought to be well compensated. And CEOs aren’t really there for leadership qualities or whatever they say they are (although some of the celebrity/prima donna CEOs certainly bring their own different breed of value to the companies they represent…people like Musk, Gates, Jobs, etc). They are there to be a person to point to when shit hits the fan. As they say, you don’t pay a hooker for sex, you pay a hooker to be quiet.

In my opinion, I think that a CEOs pay should, generally, be a significant salary proportional to the market-cap of the company, and a large percentage of stocks should not be able to be touched until 1 year following the CEOs departure from the companies.