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[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (12 children)

Maybe we'll see planned communities pop up that pool resources and create their own "circular economy". Certain things are incredibly cheap today, e.g. learning how to do things. And technology can make certain basics needed to live very cheap. Food, water, energy, housing, education, safety, medical, community.

If you could e.g. buy some farmland and build a compact apartment block out of e.g. shipping containers (or something even cheaper) then you could produce your own food, have your own school (partially over internet), a doctor / medic, and have workshops to make and maintain whatever you need.

Maybe the "buy in" costs for each person could be pretty low, like 10-20k.

A kind of "democratization" of economy for the basic needs. The global economy is completely out of whack because nobody can compete with mass produced garbage and marketing, so our work is getting worth less and less and we're getting poorer.

[–] Spaceinv8er@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago (9 children)

That sounds like a commune with extra steps.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Gasp! Sir, this is a micro-federation of free people! :D

I don't really care what you call it, it shouldn't be about ideology but about economy benefit and freedom from economic exploitation. But you'll definitely be facing anti-socialist propaganda. It's possible that certain advances in technology allow for a life in relative luxury (e.g. rich in free time, rich in stability, rich in self determination). Things like 3D printers don't quite get us there, but if you could invent / develop or genetically engineer access to raw materials. You'd still need quite a few "vitamins" like microprocessors etc so you'd still need to import some stuff and export some labour or goods.

[–] Spaceinv8er@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So... A commune then... I'm sorry I'm not trying to troll you, but you quite literally are defining a commune.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Not exactly, the proper umbrella term would be "intentional community" and there are many forms that would not fit that label.

PS: Mostly I'd avoid that term because of the negative propaganda. You see OP, everyone agrees shit is ridiculously bad, then you see accusations of being a "tankie" when you suggest any alternative. But there are also many (failed) social engineering ideas that are associated with communes.

[–] Spaceinv8er@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We are saying the same thing here man, you're just not wanting to say commune because it's too close to the word communism... When a commune doesn't strictly mean a communist village.

The wikipedia you linked to even says that it's a synonym for a commune.

Also being a tankie is way different than wanting more progressive legislation. Though I understand your point.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes you're right, unfortunately I failed haha. The wikipedia article even says "Also the alternative term commune is considered to be non-neutral or even linked to leftist politics or hippies."

[–] Spaceinv8er@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

You failed at nothing friend. We were just getting on the same page, and giving two labels for the same thing.

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