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[–] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It's class warfare, plain and simple.

The owner class has collectively decided there are too many worker class people and have gone out of their way to make sure that fewer and fewer are born, and to actively punish those who choose to have children.

One thing I want to point out because I'm sure some rightie tightie always whitie is going to come by and say 'Butbutbut... there are more millionaires now than evar!!!11!1one1!!'

Yes.

They are trust fund kiddies, nearly all of them.

Upward mobility has been actively crippled by stagflation and several 'once in a lifetime economic crises' all in the span of 20 years.

Even lower end millionaires are scared of this and claim they are struggling.

Eat the rich, it is the only solution.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Being a millionaire isn't even enough anymore. You have to be at least a multimillionaire to live off of it.

[–] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah, because they know that they are the next 'middle class' that will be targeted for extraction.

No joke I used to do consulting work for fast food franchise owner with 4 locations, the guy netted 800k a year with investments added.

Caught him several times literally sweating in fear that he wasn't going to be able to afford his kids private school and that he'd have to sell a franchise to stay above water.

Would be nice to get some class solidarity with them, but they've spent generations spitting on us so I really don't think they'll ever join the cause.

Hell, most of them blame US for the inflation that has made their money worth less.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Uhh no. I could do just fine with the rest of my life and a million dollars.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you keep working and investing etc etc, sure. That's not what I said.

I said to live off of it, which is generally the implied point of the "millionaire" goal. Retirement and whatnot. The generally accepted number is you can safely pull down (depending on the year and performance etc etc) ~30k, MAYBE 40k per mil you have invested. Fine if you're still in the workforce and all that but it's not paying the bills on its own if you have a single M.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Nope. 1 million.

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's giving them too much credit. They're just greedy and trying to manipulate markets to hoard as much wealth as possible and they don't care what happens to the workers.

[–] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Most of them, yeah, but the few capable and practiced in such actions whisper to the ignorant rich what they are to do.

I'm not pretending the wealthy are a monolithic entity, but I'm also not pretending that 8 people hold more power for political and economic change than 5 billion combined. And even if only 1 of them is a eugenicist (protip: a fucktonne more of them are eugenicists) then they in their own hand has the power to shape politics and money to whatever the fuck their twisted will is.

And some of them is to reduce the 'excess population'.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I agree with your stance on policy, but honest question here:

I hear lots of theories that the ownership class are trying to limit reproduction of the classes below them.

Why though? Don't they want a huge population of desperate workers that keep fueling their profits and keeping their well-manicured hands from doing any real work?

I dunno, I wonder sometimes if we apply Hanlon's Razor and it really is an extreme example of incredibly shortsighted capitalist stupidity: "Yeah we're running out of workers but that's not a problem THIS quarter..."

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

You want to keep them fighting amongs themselves so you limit their resources and opportunities. Don't want a lot of them suddenly realising there's a lot more of them than there are of you.

[–] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Why though? Don’t they want a huge population of desperate workers that keep fueling their profits and keeping their well-manicured hands from doing any real work?

Did you not see the rich's reaction to Kelly Osbourne's tactless 'who will clean our toilets?' statement?

If anything the last 40 years has taught me that the ultra wealthy have zero understanding of planning for a world beyond the next quarterly report.

The reason 'why' is mostly petty af, they consider us unsightly and are annoyed that our brightest are out-competing their trust fund crotchfruit in prestigious education, and are fully aware of the coming economic collapse and want as few as possible rioters banging on the doors of their ultra lux survival compounds.

I dunno, I wonder sometimes if we apply Hanlon’s Razor an

No, all you need to do is talk to them about it without them knowing that you are poor. They will tell you with their own mouths.

Class warfare has existed since before writing, and it exists wherever the wealthy are allowed to take power.