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[–] Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.de 12 points 7 months ago (5 children)

As a German I cant say if those based comments are ironically or not.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's weird. I don't think most of us actually want to shoot transphobes to death, but the sentiment behind the gift is what we're calling based.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

I do not want to get banned off this website for thresting violence. But people me in the "not most of us" camp.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ironic word choice, sincere feelings for most would be my guess.

Even the screechingnest gun hating liberal American will accept that trans people should be armed these days, at least while the Nazis sure as hell are.

[–] Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.de 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

US Problems Ig. In Germany, we have (too) many nazis and a few gun people, but the intersection between these two group is at least not as big that non-nazis have to arm themselves. Yet.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 months ago

Unfortunately in the US many trans and trans-supporting people do view guns as potentially necessary. Glorification of trans murder is common among the right-wing here and they definitely are armed.

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are smth like 20M weapons in Germany AFAIK. Hunters, police, legacy owners, farmers et al, are among those.

[–] Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.de 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Wikipedia says 1 gun on 5 people in Germany vs. 6 on 5 people in the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

E: Still too much.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 8 points 7 months ago

A little bit of column A, a little bit of column B I'd say. Part of it I'm sure is ironic, but at the same time, the US as a country is fracturing and falling apart. Minorities should be arming themselves because when shit hits the fan, they're gonna wish they were armed. That's not to say that I think anyone wants it that way, but that's the truth of it. Also sadly, trans people in the US are at high risk for violence. If you're trans in the US, you should probably have a CCW of some form, whether it's mace, a knife or a gun. Not that a Mossberg would fit in a purse, but having a shotgun for home defense isn't that bad of an idea.

There's also something kinda cute about traditional cowboy dad getting his trans daughter a gun to defend herself with. It's somehow wholesome despite the presence of a gun and accompanying implications.

[–] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

It's not. For being a southern cowboy dad that is a huge W for American trans people. The unfortunate reality is that guns are way too integrated into American society and culture to stop circulation. There needs to be major gun legislation and reform. So getting a gun as a gift may seem odd, but it makes sense.

Cultural significance aside, the right wing is preparing for some shit. Unfortunately, It actually is recommended for trans people to arm themselves in America right now. It's all real fucked up now.

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[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unironic. Marx wrote about arming the proletariat, and many lefties support gun ownership in this country out of practicality, because it would be basically impossible to take guns out of the hands of citizens. There is more guns in America than people after all.

[–] Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.de 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Didnt Marx also wrote about some of the leftis having their own infallible socialist thinker and getting conservative by only following him -even if he already died- and stop minding the presence?

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 1 points 6 months ago

Idk, you think I read books? I'm posting here