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Everything about that is absolute cancer.
Everyone's favorite TTRPG going world stage corporate. Fucking yay....
How is that different than now? DnD fell apart because Hasbro is a world stage corporation, they're just trading it to another world stage corporation which will kill it further until they pass it on too.
Whatever you remember liking is long long dead.
Nobody was trying to make this about race except you my man. That was the very first place your mind went. Which probably isn't a coincidence because, in my experience, the people screaming look at me look at me I'm not racist usually turn out to be the most racist motherfuckers you will ever deal with.
"If no one explicitly mentions that their feelings are about race, then they're not about race!"
So like... what's it about then? Can you explain why Tencent is worse than Hasbro?
Its in general about their properties and how they handle them. I seriously doubt most of the people here, other then race obsessed people like you, could even tell you where tencent is based. Could even tell you who the nationality of the people in charge are. I sure as fuck can't. I have heard the name several times in the past but, honestly, until I saw you posting this I thought they were an American company.
Because, you know, I don't obsessively check the race of everything before I make a decision about it.
You didn't explain what about Tencent was bad in any clear way, and you didn't compre it to Hasbro, so you haven't answered the question.
And last time I saw Tencent brought up it was about their investment in Epic, and there were loads of comments about social credit and winnie the pooh. It's not hard to notice the problem.
Contrary to what a lot of racists would like you to believe, noticing racism is not the real racism. But do go off about how much I'm virtue signalling.
The big issue is they are just another huge shitty corp that will bring no value, and more importantly will 100% be sitting on this property for a very long time. If it got sold people would hope it would go to someone good, someone who would bring something positive too the property, people who might turn things around and put real heart and soul into it.
Ok so...YOUR TURN! You are defending tencent so hard, making it so clear anyone who doesn't like the poor company is only against them because of racism. There has to be something amazing about them that you know that will change all of our minds? Because, honestly, right now I'm reminded of all the 'if you didn't like the movie it means your sexist' crap we got with girl ghostbusters.
Seriously, I've asked why they're worse than Hasbro several times now and nobody is addressing it. Answer the question please.
That's because nobody is saying Tencent will be specifically worse for D&D than Hasbro has been.
The person I replied to brought up the comparison by asking how it's any different, and I was responding to that. People are acting like that context doesn't exist.
I answered the issue. People are mad that its getting sold to another horrible corporation who will 100% sit on the property for years and has zero chance of doing anything good with it. This is flat out saying 'D&D' has no chance of going up from here. This is a big nail in the coffin. I don't know how to explain it simpler then that, and the fact that you glossed over me explaining why people are against this shows you don't really want to discuss the subject you just want to keep crying racism because you have a massive hardon for this company and you must defend their honor at all costs.
Seriously...why are you so defensive of this company? Do you have stock in the company or something? I really don't think its you desperately trying to prove you aren't racist like i did in the beginning...but there is something weird about this my man. You just...really really really want this company to be good in our eyes. You want so hard to prove that naysayers are only racist.
You literally didn't answer the question. The person I was replying to asked how this acquisition is any different to Hasbro, since they're both evil corporations. If you don't talk about "Hasbro" in your reply then you haven't answered the question. It's pretty straightforward.
My favourite genre of bullshit is inventing fantasies about what the other person said and then berating them for it. Literally find a single good thing I've ever said about the company. I'll wait.
Jesus christ my man. Ok, i haven't spelled it out exactly, haven't used this exact set of words but i guess it needs to be said. Its not that they are worse. Its that this sale means years and years more of horrible shit, when a sale COULD have meant it going to someone good. I have been saying that over and over very clearly. I just didn't use the words hasbro when saying that so i guess the way you scan a sentence didn't pick up on that? Would you like me to explain that a fourth time?
And no...you have not said a anything good but for half a day now you have been insisting the only reason people don't like them is racism. That implies that they must be good. You have to understand that right? If they are only hated because of race? That means there is no real problem with them in your eyes?
Then you could have just said that. You didn't.
To whom? Please name an entity that you believe would be able to buy an ascendant property like D&D that isn't an evil megacorporation.
Holy fuck it's been 3 days dude fucking drop this. I've explained so much why I think this isn't about race and you just won't shut the fuck up.
Lol, if I had to guess I'd say you just saw a downvote pileon and thought, "well this person is obviously wrong, I can get some easy jabs in while they're down". You didn't expect me to have something reasonable to say and now you can't take the L.
That's what happens when you can't be bothered to pay attention to what people are actually saying.
3 day ive been on your mind man. 3 days. this is just...so pathetically sad. Move on. I'll help. You are right. It's all racism. You, and you alone, are the shining beacon of racial tolerance in a sea of horrid savages.
Now, please, move on. I honestly completely forget you exist until you keep popping back into my life to scream racism but...its time for you to move on with your life.
I'm okay, thanks. If you want this to stop you can just stop replying, but that would require you to not get the last word in, wouldn't it?
If you're still mystified about why it took me three whole days omg to reply, I hadn't looked at my inbox in that time.
It's fascinating how other people have whole entire lives and internal worlds isn't it?
Christ man. Just...christ. OK. Yep. Ill have to be the one to stop because just...holy fuck dude. Good luck in life, your gonna need it.
It's fascinating to me that the tone of your replies show how very upset this exchange is making you, but you insist on projecting that emotion on me. That's a bad sign. If you can't learn to interrogate your own feelings and responses you'll never acknowledge them and grow as a person.
I'm starting to think this unconscious racism idea hit a little close to home for you. As they say, a hit dog will bark.
Who's saying Tencent owning D&D is worse than Hasbro owning D&D?
Hasbro has thoroughly fucked D&D over. My expectation is that Tencent will find different and novel ways to fuck D&D over. I doubt Tencent will be significantly better or worse for D&D than Hasbro. But then D&D (and WotC more generally) was mostly beyond redemption before news that Hasbro was trying to sell it off.
The comment I replied to was asking that exact question, and I was pointing out that the only reason to think they are any different is probably rooted in racism, as a lot of the panic surrounding tencent has been in my experience.
Joncash2's comment? Please explain the 4-dimensional calculus by which you interpreted that comment to have said anything about Tencent being worse (for D&D or just in general) than Hasbro (or better, for that matter).
Have you read the comments? Like, actually read them? For understanding? For tone?
Something about the way you worded the first paragraph makes it read as if you are stating your opinion and not mocking the reason most people go “Tencent bad”. I had to re-read a couple times to understand it. I do agree with your critique.
Have an upvote for scarcasm
Delete this.
I genuinely can't decide if this is being downvoted by people who think I'm being sincere, people who don't like their racism being called out, people who think I'm defending a global corporation, or people who think I'm a tankie. Maybe it's a mix of all four.
What reasonable person could read your post as anything but sincere racism? An "/s" goes a long way.
(Though I'm not sure in this case that would have been enough to keep you from getting downvotes. Would have made your post sound like you thought everyone who thought Tencent owning D&D was a bad thing thought so for racist reasons.)
And you misused the word "interrogate."
A reasonable person might read the phrase "for reasons I refuse to interrogate further" and realise that's far too self-aware for an openly racist person to say.
But you apparently noticed that I said "interrogate" and you think I... used it wrong? I am genuinely curious what you think that word means in the context of that phrase, and what you think the phrase itself means.
I downvoted it because it's racism out of nowhere. Whether you're being pro-racist or ironically anti-racist hardly matters, it's just an unwelcome and unwarranted jump to this subject that nobody cared about.
I get the spirit of the comment, but among people who often play multiple TTRPGs almost no one would call D&D their favorite. I would be worried if Tencent (or Hasbro) bought Arc Dream or Evil Hat, but in practice the John Harpers of the world leave and start another company using their corporate lucre. In fact that’s where Paizo started, from people peeling off of D&D after Hasbro acquired it.
Tabletop games are such a functionally cheap product to create and sell it’s impossible to truly stomp out competition. Tencent would have to buy Twitch and YouTube and disallow any other game, and even then every nerd convention in the world would have some guy selling stapled together zines that rips D&D a new asshole.
Tl;dr: I don’t give a shit if Tencent buys D&D.