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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Dude. If you think you should be able to walk into intelligence agencies and get their information on a particular topic, that's truly sad.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Source: bro trust me

Lol what a joke

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone really cares who you trust.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The fact remains that the source for this claim is bro trust me. Nobody should care who I trust. But I'm sure most people can see that "bro trust me" is completely useless. I will believe it when I see evidence

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You are not asked to believe it.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Than we won’t support our governments for blindly believing it.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

They have the information so they're not blind. At least not as blind as you.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

So "trust me bro" then?

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah sure, like they had the information on Saddams WMDs!

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah, or about Russia invading Ukraine! Wait.

If you look at documents at the time, intelligence agencies said there was a possibility he had WMDs, but there was no conclusive evidence nor assurances.

The Bush Administration lied to Congress and said we knew for sure they had them.

Edit: It's good to have healthy skepticism -- it hasn't escaped my notice that the majority of evidence behind this claim is coming from Israel. I don't think it's wise to deem it automatically false however, and pulling funding is premature. There should however be a serious internal investigation. And if they already have smoking guns, the UN should release them in the interest of transparency.

Apologies for starting out my comment as a bit of a jackass.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nobody should believe anything because of a "bro trust me" and if you do you have a serious problem. I know nobody cares if I believe it, I am not stupid

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Denual is a refuge for weak arguments. Obviously the the countries that control fund8ng are not in denial.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Bruh, "above our paygrade" is a prime example of denial, deflection, and appeal to authority.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Scepticism in the face of a lack of evidence, especially for a claim from one side involved in a war, is not only a good idea but necessary. Would you just believe a Russian claim about Ukranian schools, no questions asked?

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can be a skeptic as much as you want. But, the funding countries aren't. The UN having already fired personnel aren't.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago