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[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t see Nintendo/Game Freak doing something about Palword. Due to Palworld's first trailer release two years ago. So if Nintendo/Game Freak was going to do something about Palworld. They had two years to do it.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 26 points 8 months ago (4 children)

They can only demand palworld to not advertise it as "pokemon with gun", otherwise they have no case against the uninspired monster design.

[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

pokemon doesn't own the concept of monster colectors

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The accusation isn't about the concept but the artwork.

[–] 520@kbin.social 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Pokémon doesn't own the concept of cute magical anime animals either. Infact I'm pretty sure it's a common anime trope.

If they could do shit about this, Digimon and Yokai Watch would not exist.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc -3 points 8 months ago

Never said they did.

[–] Koen967@feddit.nl 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I wonder. Does that also mean Fromsoft has a case against games marketing themselves as soulslikes?

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 8 points 8 months ago

They can try, nintendo never did, doubt they will win, and cost them the decades of good will they've gained. The genre name is either a part of the title mixed with the word clone, like, lite, or a portmanteau like Metroidvania, so it's not 100% case.

That's why Palworld did not mentioned Pokemon on the steam page and the trailer.

[–] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Don't give Nintendo or Konami ideas about Metroidvanias...

Jokes aside, IMO its a common term and like has been a thing for a long time, roguelike as an example

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

It's also good for business. If someone comes in not knowing about Souls games and starts seeing it, they'll wonder why it's called that.

I played both Metroid and Castlevania when I was a kid so I knew where those came from. I quit gaming for a decade or so and didn't know anything about Souls-like games when I got back. I started seeing it everywhere and it made me curious. Now I'm a fan of From and games like what they put out.

[–] neuropean@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

It’s hard to feel any sympathy for them since they pretty much copied Pokémon another, older game.

https://sopuli.xyz/pictrs/image/b8ec9f1d-069e-4c81-b7c3-52ff6d531e98.webp

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

There's also the matter that they aped BOTWs sound library in a way that crosses from "inspired" to "plagiarism", but that's easier to fix.

The argument for IP stealing wouldn't be so much the designs alone, but the intention. The "Pokemon with Guns" thing might be used as evidence that they were deliberately copying Pokemon's designs and tweaking them a bit. That's the same difference ad between reading the same source materials and copying your homework while replacing a few words.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

INAL and it's been ages i studied copyright law and it's also depend on country(in this case, it's japan company vs japan company), but plagiarism only catch anything on the surface, they have no reach on the concept or idea or thought itself. The work itself also have to be very, very close to the original artwork, otherwise it can considered derivative and is protected by copyright law. In this case, Palworld have their own idea and twist on their monster even though it looks like the original work they copied, and the gameplay are mostly unfamiliar from the original work. They make it close enough to evoke the same feeling people have toward pokemon, but different enough to get away with it.

This is why Nintendo did not try anything against Genshin, even though Genshin took BOTW and add some of their idea. And this is also why you can film your own version of lion king, but the character is all bugs or something.

Personally i think Pokemon Company will not take action, the statement could just be something to make the fans stop bothering them. But i'd like to proven wrong.

[–] 520@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago

They didn't directly take BoTW's sound track and put it in. The most they did is use very similar concepts. Which is legal.