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[–] maness300@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago (60 children)

Imagine how much better the world would be if Jews migrated to the US instead of directly in the middle of people who hate them the most.

Zionism is a plague that is responsible for untold damage.

[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I mean that kind of happened already. There's a reason why the United States has the second highest Jewish population in the world, less only than Israel and not by much. Rampant anti semitisim in Europe among other reasons drove many to emigrate to the US. Between 1880 and 1914 alone, 2 million Ashkenazi Jewish people immigrated to the United States to escape ethnic cleansing pogroms in Eastern Europe.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_United_States

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

People in Palestine actually welcome them, and it is not Jew it is the Zainoist movement that were supported ( not sure who exactly gave them guns ) and started two organizations that committed multiple massacres before forming Israel.

[–] Guydht@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

These were already after Zionists were already moving to the land in droves and trying to set up the Israeli state. That's like saying the Native Americans were violent anti-Americans for attacking settler colonies during the Wild West. The process of displacement and settler colonialism was already way underway by that time and seen in real time by the local. Rather than give them their own state as promised after WWI, Britain instead not only kept Palestine, but used it so all the antisemitic European countries had somewhere to put their Jews. Revisionist Zionists happily accepted this arrangement and once they had the numbers, started setting up terrorist and paramilitary groups and prepping for their future state.

But Jewish immigration has been happening for awhile before the violence had started, and during that time, relations between the groups were almost entirely peaceful and accepting. Keep in mind that migrations were happening in the 1800's and even earlier, way before your Wikipedia time line starts.

Btw, some of these Zionist groups tried to coordinate with the Nazis, too. And they've never reconciled with that. One of them became prime minister, and Netanyahu has a figure of the founder of Lehi behind his desk, too.

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