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Pretty sure it's always been like this since newt.
The first president I was conscious of is Reagan. At least since him, really.
The first line in green days 21st century breakdown album goes "born into nixon and raised in hell" which sets the tone for the rest of the album. Resonates with me because i was born into nixon and first president i remember at all was carter. Reagan was the president when I first was cognizant of what was going on. But yea, the more things change, the more they stay the same. Neoconservatism? Theres nothing new about it, its old as time and evil as hell.
True, but the level that it is at now goes past Nixon. This is legitimate John Birch Society stuff. And the Birchers used to be laughed at even by most Republicans.
Reagan started normalizing them and it's continued from there.
"I'm a faithful follower of Brother John Birch and I belong to the Antioch Baptist Church, and I ain't even got a garage, you can call and ask my wife."
--Charlie Daniels
The line was spoken by a green toothed hillbilly in a song he wrote. He was making fun of these types and painted them as drunk hicks.
For reference, 15 years later he had a song (the second part to this song, funny enough) that did its best to make fun of half the queer community.
I feel like the media just has to pretend it's a new story to keep people engaged.
It's the same with all this generational crap:
Gen X: "They are slackers who never leave their parents' basement and don't want to work. How will society survive?"
Millenials: "They are slackers who never leave their parents' basement and don't want to work. How will society survive?"
Gen Z: ""They are slackers who never leave their parents' basement and don't want to work. How will society survive?"
And then we all get cultural amnesia and pretend that none of this has ever been said before.
Hell, I'm pretty sure they said this about boomers too in the 60s, though I wasn't around.
After all that it turns out, the kids are alright
If anything, it seems the kids are even better now than before, but I may be biased because my nibling and nephew are turning out to be straight up awesome people
This Xer really has hope for Z. As a group they seem to have figured out that a lot of our norms are bullshit to serve the 1% much quicker than we X-er's did, and quicker than it seems like Millennials did too.
Saw this recentlyish and saved it. 100% validates your point, and goes back even further than you'd believe.
I'm saving this! That's ... really far back!
Right? About time people stopped accepting it.
Nitpick, you’re thinking of “21st century breakdown”, not american idiot. Because one album about the problems with american society didn’t cover enough of the issues.
Corrected. Thanks
Not really related but your comment made me remember an old EP I have where one of the songs starts with a recording of a speech GWB was giving about what the American Flag stands for and it immediately devolves into a depraved rant-I have no idea how they reproduced his voice so well but it’s almost seamless the way the impersonator moves into talking about dripping acid on skin and torturing people with hot irons. This was long before AI.
If you remember the name lemme know. Sounds awesome. I remember ministry did a 3 album set ripping gwb back in the day. Al jorgenson is a national treasure.
It’s Shaolin Punk, who have barely any presence at all online it seems-if they are even still together as the EP was from 2004: https://www.last.fm/music/shaolin+punk/Distorted+Child
It’s song #3, which I wasn’t able to listen to on the site-not sure if it’s because I don’t have an account there or it’s actually not playable. IIRC they used to make several different versions of songs so I wanted to make sure it was the same version as I was remembering. I’ll just transcribe the intro from my copy below:
I was thinking the same thing. They've always been that way. He just told them it's ok to say the quiet part outloud.
Look at Nixon quotes regarding war on drugs to target hippies and black people. It's been going on a long time.
Ed- https://www.vera.org/reimagining-prison-webumentary/the-past-is-never-dead/drug-war-confessional
Keep going. It predates Nixon.
Last halfway decent repub was Eisenhower.