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Politicians constantly talk about stopping the illegal immigrants that are coming from Mexico, but putting a wall has never and will never be a solution since the reason why so many displaced keep coming across the border is mostly to escape the crime, corruption, inequality, and violence of they have to live in their home countries. The worst part is that most of these terrible things is that happen in third world countries are rooted in constant subversion by developed countries, primarily the US. I feel like since we caused this (even if in part) we should help stop it now, even if we didn't publicly admit guilt to save face.

So, how do we do it? Do we straight up invade Mexico and go on a full out war against the cartels like we did against Osama Bin Laden?

If not, why not? And, is there anything that can be done?

I would like to keep things civil. Please, let's keep this respectful as I know this is a tough issue and there is anger on both sides of this issue.

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[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Legalize and regulate the drug trade and prostitution. Would overnight make those activities significantly less harmful and you would be able to put all that blank check DEA money into treatments and going after child traffickers which is the only market that shouldnt be regulated or exist. Wow. Problem fucking solved. Let them keep their avocadoes and shit. Boom, we just solved billions of dollars worth of problems and can actually use these things to better society for ourselves and the people that the cartel terrorize with this shit. Almost like, they dont want the problem to be solved.

[–] Mathazzar@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

A thing to remember is that legal prostitution is still a vector in the human trafficking trade. Even where it's legal, women are forcefully relocated to those nations and forced to work.

Most of the prostitution issues would be handled, but you would still need to account for it.

[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You would have to make it legal everywhere or at least as many places as possible. The world followed the US lead on the drug war Im sure they could follow our lead with this too. Especially if you could demonstrate how it would hurt these criminal operations. If prostitution is legalized in 70% of countries, you just destroyed 70% of their human trafficking operations. Yes there would be the remaining 30% of countries but they already are experiencing that the demand isnt going to go up 70% in those few remaining 30% of countries.

[–] Mathazzar@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Even in countries where prostitution is legal women are being trafficked against their will to those countries to be forced into sex work.

They're already being trafficked to the US to be forced into prostitution, why would they care if it's legalized. It wouldn't affect their trafficking.

But I also feel you may be inflating the ramifications of legalization of drugs and prostitution. I believe it was Canada or one of the US states where the cost of legally sold Marijuana was still too high and people turned to their old dealers. You'd see the cartel enter the market again with cheaper, more dangerous options for those who can't afford the higher priced, taxed, and regulated products.

We can regulate those who wish to operate above board, but you can't stop the pipeline.