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It’s not like any candidate was actually good but they did pick the worst one.

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[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He won the popular vote by a smaller percentage of votes cast than Hillary and the Dem candidate winning the sub-45yo vote is pretty much a given. In most elections, it would be by much more.

As for the 65+ group, a lot of fascists and people who don't consider fascism more of a deal breaker than a (D) behind a name are aging into that group, perhaps as many as are dying off.

And no, I'm not assuming anything. I'm pointing out that there's a big risk of the pro-democracy candidate losing if he and the rest of the DNC don't stop thinking that "Not Trump" is enough and start listening to what the public wants.

[–] Chriswild@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't know how to explain to you that you just agreed with me.

You agree that young people vote dem

You agree old people are dying off

But you think Dems will be held accountable by voters by electing a worse candidate for them just to spite the Dems? .

People will take the best option they are provided and 2020 had the highest voter turnout since 1900 for sleepy creepy Joe.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You obviously have a lot more faith in the rationality of voters than I do, in spite of the whole gestures at entire world thing.

In stead of pointing out details, I'm just gonna hope that your faith will be rewarded in a little under 11 months and wish you a nice day.

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

"I don't have an argument, but I can't handle being wrong, so I wrote this to ensure the safety of my ego"

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No. I was about to refute their misconceptions point by point but decided it wasn't worth the effort since we're ostensibly on the same side and nothing I or anyone else can say would convince them.

Same with you, it seems, so unless you actually have something to add, I suggest you take your conclusion jumping elsewhere.

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Please do try. I'd like to see you show how hilariously out of your element you are trying to prove something to a bunch of randos on the internet :)

Classic conservative playbook... as soon as somebody proves you wrong or even just argues well against your points, you make a short comment indicating that the time for discussion has passed and that you've already won.

It's a well documented strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmVkJvieaOA&t=0

Enjoy your astroturfing

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[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

hilariously out of your element

Says the one who calls me a

conservative

Dude, can't you read? I clearly said that Biden's the lesser evil by far and that the Trump presidency was a catastrophe.

I'm not calling Biden an evil because I think he's too far left. I'm calling him an evil because he's way too far right and way too authoritarian. Dude loves cops and the fascist apartheid state Israel, just like Trump does.

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I still think you're a conservative, just the kind that wears a Mao t-shirt instead of a Reagan one...

Also go look up what astroturfing means

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I still think you're a conservative, just the kind that wears a Mao t-shirt instead of a Reagan one.

That would make me a tankie. Tankies are super authoritarian and I'm the opposite. That's one of the things I dislike about Biden, remember?

I tend to occupy a very wide field between European style Social Democrat to Left Libertarian bordering on anarchism, depending on the specific subject.

Always on the "no such thing as inherent authority" end of the axis where Biden's at the "cops are great" end, though.

Also go look up what astroturfing means

I'm well aware of campaigns disguising themselves as grassroots when in actuality some very rich people are behind it.

Ironically, every campaign of The Senator From MBNA has been more or less astroturfing.

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Claims not to be conservative

Quotes conservative media

Since when has Joe Biden been marketed as a grassroots candidate? Sorry, but the 90s were like 30 years ago buddy.

I literally just started this comment chain to troll, but now I'm genuinely worried about your critical thinking skills.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Quotes conservative media

The fuck I did! Conservatives didn't coin that nickname, progressives did! Progressives pointing out that he was suspiciously helpful to a major campaign donor to the detriment of regular people.

Since when has Joe Biden been marketed as a grassroots candidate?

Since every time they've portrayed him as just a regular middle class man of the people friend of union workers, none of which he actually is.

I'm genuinely worried about your critical thinking skills

Right back at you, shitlib. Have the day you deserve.

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Your anger is futile.

That nickname was coined by a conservative news article and outlet - go look it up.

Politicians are always going to be depicted as men of the people. That's not what astroturfing is... you should brush up on the term.

I hope you have a much better day than you deserve 💛. It seems like you're going through some stuff

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Your anger is futile.

Aww it's cute that you think your bullshit is crafty enough to rile me up lol. My use of emphatic language is out of bafflement, not anger.

go look it up.

Nope. Not going to spend the time and effort looking up YOUR claim. YOU provide a source or stfu.

Btw, even IF it bizarrely turns out that the notoriously pro-business and anti-consumer conservatives were the ones who came up with it, that doesn't change the context and meaning which I'm using it.

That's not what astroturfing is... you should brush up on the term.

I literally defined the term for you. Unlike you, I'm fully aware of what it means. You're acting like Vizzini from The Princess Bride with his constant misuse of "inconceivable!"

It seems like you're going through some stuff

If by that you mean "wasting time and effort trying to talk sense into a Dunning Kruger poster boy", then yeah. I have bad impulse control that sometimes makes me keep answering when bad faith arguing idiots adress me directly even though I know it's a bad idea.

In conclusion: you started out with nonsense and if anything just got worse from there. Please leave me alone.