It’s not like any candidate was actually good but they did pick the worst one.
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Honestly, picking Trump again is a good thing for the rest of us. We know he can lose and because of the last presidential election and his base is just getting smaller.
It's not like any Republican is a good candidate. All of them think abortion is a crime and will appoint shit supreme court justices. So give me the one I know loses because they lost before.
Biden BARELY beat him the first time around and conditions are WORSE this time around:
1: The electorate has a ridiculously short memory and aren't currently suffering from Trump being president.
2: Related to but distinct from 1, Biden's main strategy of "at least I'm not the other guy" is much less effective for an incumbent than a challenger.
3: Biden is currently alienating a large part of his own base by supporting two seperate genocides (Gaza and Yemen), one of which Democrats actually care about even when there's a Dem president.
Don't get me wrong, I REALLY want him to win since he's by far the lesser evil, but for the above reasons and others, there's a significant risk of him actually losing if the traitor isn't disqualified as he should be
Things are not worse. Life for the average American is significantly better now than it was in 2020. I guess everyone's already forgotten the shambles our society was in during the 2020 election?
I meant that his ELECTION prospects are worse, in part BECAUSE life in general is better and many have forgotten just how awful it used to be.
It's much easier to get elected on "we know he's not the most exciting candidate, but at least he's better than the one ruining your life right now" than on "we know he's been underwhelming but at least he hasn't been catastrophic like the one who used to ruin your life"
Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying.
Biden won by nearly 7 million votes with a 62% of votes under 30 years old and 52% under 45 years old.
Actually the only age group he didn't win with was 65+ and they're the ones dropping faster and faster each month.
So you're assuming people will take Trump over Biden because he was involved in genocide when he was involved in 8 years of drone strike champion before he ran in 2020.
He won the popular vote by a smaller percentage of votes cast than Hillary and the Dem candidate winning the sub-45yo vote is pretty much a given. In most elections, it would be by much more.
As for the 65+ group, a lot of fascists and people who don't consider fascism more of a deal breaker than a (D) behind a name are aging into that group, perhaps as many as are dying off.
And no, I'm not assuming anything. I'm pointing out that there's a big risk of the pro-democracy candidate losing if he and the rest of the DNC don't stop thinking that "Not Trump" is enough and start listening to what the public wants.
I don't know how to explain to you that you just agreed with me.
You agree that young people vote dem
You agree old people are dying off
But you think Dems will be held accountable by voters by electing a worse candidate for them just to spite the Dems? .
People will take the best option they are provided and 2020 had the highest voter turnout since 1900 for sleepy creepy Joe.
You obviously have a lot more faith in the rationality of voters than I do, in spite of the whole gestures at entire world thing.
In stead of pointing out details, I'm just gonna hope that your faith will be rewarded in a little under 11 months and wish you a nice day.
"I don't have an argument, but I can't handle being wrong, so I wrote this to ensure the safety of my ego"
No. I was about to refute their misconceptions point by point but decided it wasn't worth the effort since we're ostensibly on the same side and nothing I or anyone else can say would convince them.
Same with you, it seems, so unless you actually have something to add, I suggest you take your conclusion jumping elsewhere.
Please do try. I'd like to see you show how hilariously out of your element you are trying to prove something to a bunch of randos on the internet :)
Classic conservative playbook... as soon as somebody proves you wrong or even just argues well against your points, you make a short comment indicating that the time for discussion has passed and that you've already won.
It's a well documented strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmVkJvieaOA&t=0
Enjoy your astroturfing
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Says the one who calls me a
Dude, can't you read? I clearly said that Biden's the lesser evil by far and that the Trump presidency was a catastrophe.
I'm not calling Biden an evil because I think he's too far left. I'm calling him an evil because he's way too far right and way too authoritarian. Dude loves cops and the fascist apartheid state Israel, just like Trump does.
I still think you're a conservative, just the kind that wears a Mao t-shirt instead of a Reagan one...
Also go look up what astroturfing means
That would make me a tankie. Tankies are super authoritarian and I'm the opposite. That's one of the things I dislike about Biden, remember?
I tend to occupy a very wide field between European style Social Democrat to Left Libertarian bordering on anarchism, depending on the specific subject.
Always on the "no such thing as inherent authority" end of the axis where Biden's at the "cops are great" end, though.
I'm well aware of campaigns disguising themselves as grassroots when in actuality some very rich people are behind it.
Ironically, every campaign of The Senator From MBNA has been more or less astroturfing.
Since when has Joe Biden been marketed as a grassroots candidate? Sorry, but the 90s were like 30 years ago buddy.
I literally just started this comment chain to troll, but now I'm genuinely worried about your critical thinking skills.
The fuck I did! Conservatives didn't coin that nickname, progressives did! Progressives pointing out that he was suspiciously helpful to a major campaign donor to the detriment of regular people.
Since every time they've portrayed him as just a regular middle class man of the people friend of union workers, none of which he actually is.
Right back at you, shitlib. Have the day you deserve.
Your anger is futile.
That nickname was coined by a conservative news article and outlet - go look it up.
Politicians are always going to be depicted as men of the people. That's not what astroturfing is... you should brush up on the term.
I hope you have a much better day than you deserve 💛. It seems like you're going through some stuff
Aww it's cute that you think your bullshit is crafty enough to rile me up lol. My use of emphatic language is out of bafflement, not anger.
Nope. Not going to spend the time and effort looking up YOUR claim. YOU provide a source or stfu.
Btw, even IF it bizarrely turns out that the notoriously pro-business and anti-consumer conservatives were the ones who came up with it, that doesn't change the context and meaning which I'm using it.
I literally defined the term for you. Unlike you, I'm fully aware of what it means. You're acting like Vizzini from The Princess Bride with his constant misuse of "inconceivable!"
If by that you mean "wasting time and effort trying to talk sense into a Dunning Kruger poster boy", then yeah. I have bad impulse control that sometimes makes me keep answering when bad faith arguing idiots adress me directly even though I know it's a bad idea.
In conclusion: you started out with nonsense and if anything just got worse from there. Please leave me alone.
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