Buy a used older model if you need a machine. Because it's cheaper, because it is more basic in its components, because those parts are probably cheaper to buy and replace yourself if need be, and mainly because someone is selling it at its age because it STILL works. Anything tied to a circuit board with a processor is a time bomb.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You will not get a washing machine without processor, let alone PCB. Processors also hardly ever fail. It is stuff like the voltage conversion which powers the logic side, the actual power switches for the motor, capacitors or simply stuff that corrodes.

[–] octobob@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Does an old school washer dryer that runs off timer relays / knobs / push buttons really have a CPU? I ask because that's how mine is and I haven't had to look at the controls but they seem dead simple to me. I get there's different cycles but some simple ladder logic should be able to handle that, no? Half the world runs on simple machines like that.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Does an old school washer dryer that runs off timer relays / knobs / push buttons really have a CPU?

Nope, it's just a timer-drive. cam triggering switches. The physical cam IS the CPU.

We have reached a point in time where there are adults who think everything that runs through multiple steps must have a microcontroller, because only really really old machines* do without.

*For the most part. I bought a brand new whirlpool dryer late last year, and it has a mechanical timer in it.

[–] balancedchaos@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Mine has analog dials. I consulted several "buy it for life" communities before I purchased. Anything to cut down on unnecessary complications.

[–] anytimesoon@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are there any of these communities you could recommend?

[–] balancedchaos@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

The main one that has served me most well is over on reddit. /r/buyitforlife

[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What is it

[–] balancedchaos@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://www.maytag.com/washers-and-dryers/washers/top-load-washers/p.top-load-washer-with-deep-fill-4.5-cu.-ft.mvw4505mw.html?

https://www.maytag.com/washers-and-dryers/dryers/gas/p.top-load-gas-dryer-with-steam-enhanced-cycles-7.0-cu.-ft.mgd5430mw.html?

[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Thanks. I have an LG washer and dryer, electric. They seem to work great now but I can't see them working well for years. It's been about 3 years now. My oven is maytag and we love it. Def. Keeping this in mind.

[–] Throwdownyourgrandma@feddit.nl 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A newer machine however is a lot more efficient when looking at your energy and water bill.

Switching from an older to a newer machine made quite a difference on my monthly bills.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Having a newer machine cost me slightly less money on utilities, and considerably more in washing machine parts.

[–] Throwdownyourgrandma@feddit.nl 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

For me the savings on the electrical bill will be more than what I spent on the machine before the warranty is over.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Doubt.

My electric bill changed by less than $2 per month when I installed an "inefficient" washing machine. It was so little that I'm not sure the washer was the cause. That's $72 over a period of three years. The machine it replaced was just out of warranty and needed a $200 drain pump.

[–] Throwdownyourgrandma@feddit.nl 0 points 9 months ago

I suspect the diffence here is what we pay for electricity. It is quite expensive in Europe. I pay around 0,35 euro per 1 kWh.