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This is Culver’s. They’re a burger fast food joint located throughout the Midwest and have things called “Scoopy Night” where a percentage of the proceeds go toward a specific cause. Schools, dance groups, etc can partake and the kids who attend that school/dance group/etc help take orders and deliver food to tables. Not quite as dystopian as OP has made it seem.
when we needed to do fundraisers THE PARENTS IN THE PTA DID IT FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOLERS.
We had plenty of 'kids' working at fast food and grocery stores but not until 15 minimum. this kid looks like he's 9. that's too young to be fucking around near fryers and hot grills.
He's not. He's waiting tables and taking orders.
"Child labor is ok if the money goes to a school!"
Children do work at McDonald’s though
Just they would keep them in the back so they can’t be seen
yup. 10 year olds running deep fryers.
Are the kids required to work in order to get the money? Because that sounds like a job with good PR.
That's just child labor exploitation with extra steps.
This is what it is, and it's sad that it's so normalized that people are defending it.
Everyone knows the kids aren't technically required, but they're "required" by social pressure.
I remember having to go door to door selling things when I was a kid. It may have been voluntary in a technical sense, but I was pretty well mandated to do so if I wanted to be part of that group with my friends. And there was even more pressure from my mom and dad because they didn't want to be the family whose kid didn't do the thing.
I think it's time we start taking a long hard look at some of these things like fundraisers and de facto coerced employment of youth (without pay) and ask ourselves if a healthy system would allow this.
The one near me that does fundraisers doesn't have any students working. Usually the teachers go to say hi to families that come.
No, that's still idiotic. It doesn't matter what the context is of why a child is working at a fast food restaurant. There's a child working at a fast food restaurant. This isn't selling chocolates to raise money for a class hamster.
Selling chocolates is so much worse though. That always creeped me out because it’s either A) kids learning how to hawk wares on the street outside of stores, B) kids learning how to be door-to-door cold call solicitors or C) run a MLM pyramid scheme by convincing their parents to push their product at work.
Maybe even D) a combination of all of those for the ultimate street hustler training.
This is just kids “playing house” for a few hours. Most probably love that shit. I would have killed to see what the buttons on the register do and how the fries are made.
Honestly, I would err on the side of caution anyway. The worst that can happen is minor embarrassment that came from good intentions.
In this thread, a bunch of people that have never heard of doing a fundraiser.
Next up, they're going to go scream at the girl scouts on the corner that they're being exploited
The way this thread is going it sure would seem that way. A little bit of menial work to earn money for an activity is hardly the same as if this kid was on his 9-5 grind just itching for his next smoke break.
Whoa whoa whoa, how dare you provide context! I want to be rage baited into thinking America Bad!
Don't worry, America still Bad.
Well that’s a relief.
Don't worry, there's plenty of legitimate outrage to be had without manufacturing it...
Why not both?
If you think this context makes it OK, you're fucking delusional lmao.
It’s indicative of a larger effort by republicans to force children back to work, this is part of that dystopia even if it’s on the “light dystopia” side of the spectrum.
Fuck off whiteknight, keep enabling corporate’s ability to normalize and capitalize off of child labor. This ain’t no goddamn bake sale or car wash.
Indeed, florida's plan to make up for the migrants they shit on and terrorized out of the state is child labor. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/1/11/2216798/-Florida-has-a-solution-to-education-issues-It-s-called-child-labor
How does that boot taste?
"no, no, its not bad! The child worker is working for charity!"
Oh nice, so its worse
scoopie night The abuse has to stop. Look at those abused kids. The horror.
Would you want your child working at a fast food restaurant? Doesn't matter what kind of cutesy name gets attached to child labor.
Yes, of course I would. It's a great experience. We actually did that back in school, had a week when we all went out to check out different jobs. It was a great thrill and fun for all. Certainly not labor. We got to do grownup things. That was shortly before seventh grade, iirc.
And then, we've had school things where we would bake and cook and sell it right there on campus. Is that labor as well? Oh, and when I was in the boy scouts, we sometimes went door to door raising funds and selling trinkets. Child labor?
It's not like we had to do eight-hour days, week for week. A few hours, once in your life. That's not labor. That's a fun thing to do.
I remember doing something similar in HS 20+ years ago.
Honestly... the idea that they do this work, and the money goes to a school instead of them, makes it even worse to me?
It's a fundraiser likely for an after school program. It typically pays out a lot better than a car wash or brat fry. Typically the students run orders out to cars.
And yeah, we probably should put more funding into schools for stuff like this instead of asking kids to fundraise.