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Jay Ashcroft flopped when faced with the most dreaded predicament amongst grandstanding blowhards: a follow-up question

Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft’s attempt to justify his ludicrous threat to have President Joe Biden removed from the state’s electoral ballot spiraled into chaos over the most basic of questions: “How so?”

During a Monday interview with CNN’s Boris Sanchez, the Republican was asked how he justified his threats to have Biden removed from the state’s ballot in retaliation for recent attempts to remove Trump from state ballots on grounds that his actions in the aftermath of the 2020 election constitute insurrection. The constitutionality of such a removal will soon be reviewed by the Supreme Court.

“What would then be your justification for removing Joe Biden from the ballot in Missouri. Has he engaged in your mind in some kind of insurrection?” Sanchez asked.

“There have been allegations that he’s engaged in insurrection,” Ashcroft replied. He was then met with the most dreaded predicament amongst grandstanding blowhards: a follow-up question.

“How so?” Sanchez asked, prompting Ashcroft to demand that Sanchez stop interrupting him. “You can’t say something like that and not back it up,” Sanchez countered.

“You interrupted me before I could back it up,” a flustered Ashcroft complained. “Are you scared of the truth?”

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[–] Nougat@kbin.social 177 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Ashcroft: "Are you scared of the truth?"

Sanchez: "Oh, I am not terrified of the truth at all, seems like you might be."

You need to watch those clips in the Xitter link. Sanchez is on fucking fire and does not let up.

[–] ripcord@kbin.social 112 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

I'll watch it somewhere, but it's not going to be at TwitX.

Edit here: https://youtu.be/pIsVB-H_M_8?feature=shared

The most relevant part starts around 4:22 but the whole thing is good (well, up until the YouTuber jumps in with his take, which fortunately is after the CNN segment)

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 46 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit that was embarrassing for Jay Ashcroft. He proved he's a legal scholar equivalent of a nepo baby because he is so grossly incompetent at understanding how state law works. If this guy was your attorney, the very real question of capability and competency would come up.

Hopefully his dad will help him understand the law better because having 2 J Ashcrofts be that hilariously dumb is a bad look.

[–] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've heard better arguments from an L1 than this bozo. But you know what they say: if the law is on your side, pound the law. If the facts are on your side, pound the facts. If neither is on your side, pound the table. All he has is the table.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 6 points 10 months ago

He tried to pound the table and missed

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the non-shitter link

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 21 points 10 months ago

Fantastic. 🍿

I also immediately switched off when the YouTuber started talking.

[–] WhyYesZoidberg@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ it’s like these people are in preschool or something

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

In the sense of being genuinely ignorant of the proper way to act, no. In the sense of being petulant brats throwing a tantrum, yes.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 10 months ago

I couldn't get over his use if the word "extrajudicial" to describe what's happening in court cases. What a bumbling moron.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

"b-b-but, but twump was taken off for allegations, and allegations mean stuff someone said, so I heard someone say Biden bad so slippery slope then I take bidens name off"

He said "well if they do it, slippery slope, I'll do it!" He SERIOUSLY used a well known logical fallacy to prove his point.

my grasp upon my own native tongue is a failure, as I simply don't have the words to describe the level of idiocy we see regularly from republicans.

[–] Infinity187@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

BTC is actually a pretty well established political YT'er and has some great rundowns of the political climate. I'm sure you'd change your tune if you watched a few vids.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He's got a very intense delivery style that comes off very used-car-salesman to me. I don't think he's wrong about stuff, I just don't enjoy watching his presentation style.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I haven't watched any of that guy's videos, but from your description it at least sounds preferable to the dangerously apologistic "both-sides-ism" of most corporate news media!

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

But I don't want to watch any Youtubers talk. They are all annoying, and I don't care to see their talking faces.

Any information that they could present by talking it to a camera with their face, could be more efficiently delivered as a blog post. There's no reason but self-promotion for these people to be talking to their camera. Videos that show things happening, and are about actual stuff, are what Youtube should be for. Not a bunch of talking heads giving their opinions to a camera.

[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 84 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We need more journalism that pushes back like this.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

We certainly do, but we shouldn't kid ourselves into thinking that would accomplish much with these fuckers. They'll just start avoiding the journalists that refuse to stay neutral or lob them softballs.

It's not like their supporters are going to shame them for doing that, either. I'm shocked any Republican talks to any reporter that isn't from Fox News anymore.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

They’ll just start avoiding the journalists that refuse to stay neutral or lob them softballs.

The problem with that is thinking that the follow-up question, "How so?" is anything BUT neutral or a softball. It's just a basic question; it literally could not be MORE neutral.

This fool could have been on Newsmaxx or OANN and gotten that same question from a friendly interviewer trying to offer him the space to lay out more slanderous innuendo, unaware that Jay Ashcroft is completely unprepared for even that tiny amount of latitude.

I know that's not your position or what you personally are advocating, but jesus fucking christ that's an easy one. "So-and-so did something bad." Response: "How so?"

To blatantly twist a quote from The Godfather, Jay Ashcroft showed up for that interview with nothing but his dick in his hand . . . and his hand wasn't even full.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 5 points 10 months ago

They already do avoid most journalists, for precisely that reason. Neutrality, to the insane Republican party, is the same thing as a far left bias.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 10 months ago

Hell even within Fox news... Shepard Smith was one of a handful of actual journalists at Fox news, surrounded entirely by opinion shows.

Fox news viewers HATED Shepard Smith because he was "too opinionated."

I can't stand this reality.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I'm sure they dream of a day in the not-to-distant future where they can just have journalists like this killed.