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Officials said the government of the People’s Republic of China (PRC) may be cyberstalking, physically intimidating and harassing Chinese citizens, naturalized U.S. citizens and families of dissidents who speak out against the party.

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[–] Tire@lemmy.ml 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

China actually sets up police stations in other countries to keep people in line about what they say about China. This article is not a stretch.

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

then, again: it'd be nice to provide literally any details of that--this article basically presupposes this to be occurring without providing any details at all

[–] tardigrada@beehaw.org 8 points 10 months ago

As FBI director Wray is cited in 'How China Tries to Intimidate Its Dissidents Living Overseas' (2020), for example:

In one case, according to Wray, the CCP “sent an emissary to visit the target’s family here in the United States.” This emissary warned the target that he or she “had two options: return to China promptly, or commit suicide.”

A more recent analysis on China's illegal police stations can be found at 'China's Consular Volunteers.'

But there are very good sources across the web.

[–] millie@beehaw.org 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you need every article that talks about carbon emissions to first demonstrate the legitimacy of global warming?

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

this is such a false equivalence it might as well be a nonsequitur--this isn't "demonstrating basic inferential science that has been known about for over 100 years", it amounts to an accusation of violating the sovereignty of another country and yes, that should be seriously scrutinized and demonstrated (especially given the tensions between the US and China, and the long tail of anti-Asian sentiment caused by COVID)

[–] millie@beehaw.org 6 points 10 months ago

So what would you say is the appropriate course of action? For the FBI to out the identities and statements of people who report Chinese state harassment in the US? To keep the information entirely a secret otherwise?

Like, the FBI warning people that there's a danger without totally tipping their hand seems like a reasonable move to make if they have such evidence. They don't need to present it in order to do that.

Likewise, while it would certainly make a better story and a better read if it provided some additional background information, that's not what this piece is. It's literally just reporting the announcement.

Honestly, I'm not sure where your opposition to it is outside of simply reacting to criticism of the Chinese government. Which, honestly, is a little shady.

[–] sarsaparilyptus@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago

West Taiwan isn't going to love you, give it up