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RIP Microsoft WordPad. You Will Be Missed::It's truly the end of an era as we say farewell to a real one.

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[–] dynamojoe@lemmy.world 108 points 10 months ago (4 children)

WordPad is what MS Word should be. It's most of what everyone needs in a word processor and it's lightweight. MS Word is becoming a bloated nightmare of toolbars and creeping featuritis.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 81 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Is becoming? It already has been for decades. I think the extent of adding an entire VBA automation backend was somewhere near the tipping point...

Fortunately LibreOffice is a thing for anyone who wants a $0 rich text capable editor, and I'm sure there are a zillion other alternatives by now both open source and not.

[–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, "becoming" is a strange choice of wording.... Word has been bloated and overkill for 2 decades at this point.

Libre Office is still bulky for anything I want on my PC. If I'm going to do any serious writing, I'm using Google Docs for backups and such. If I'm doing quick txt edits I'm using Sublime or Notepad. I use wordpad for stuff in the middle so I will definitely miss it and not sure how to solve this problem.

That said, I'm not fucking installing Win 11 so guess this isn't a problem till 12.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why would you install windows 12?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Right? Even setting aside the inevitable "have you considered Linux?" chat, if you're the kind of person who refuses to install Windows 11, why would you be sure you'll install Windows 12?

We've seen nothing to suggest Windows won't just continue to get less usable, more bloated, more spyware-ridden, and just generally more anti-consumer.

[–] leave_it_blank@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Up to XP I used several dos versions, win3.1, 95, 98, 98SE, and then XP. From there I skipped one version, so 7, then 10. Worked out pretty well so far. So my next windows will hopefully also be 12, and I hope it will have a better UI than 11.

Linux is also interesting, but I like gaming without fiddling too much with my operating system, I just don't want to commit my rare spare time to that. I want install -> play.

[–] kwedd@feddit.nl 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Linux is also interesting, but I like gaming without fiddling too much with my operating system, I just don't want to commit my rare spare time to that. I want install -> play.

With Proton, running Windows games from Steam has become pretty much click-and-play. If you do all your gaming through Steam, most games just work.

[–] leave_it_blank@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Sadly I do non of my gaming through steam. But someone else might find this answer useful!

[–] kwedd@feddit.nl 1 points 10 months ago

Linux is also interesting, but I like gaming without fiddling too much with my operating system, I just don't want to commit my rare spare time to that. I want install -> play.

With Proton, running Windows games from Steam has become pretty much click-and-play. If you do all your gaming through Steam, most games just work.

[–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

why would you be sure you'll install Windows 12?

I'm not, my post said this isn't an issue till 12, as in, I'm not even considering 11, but I will consider 12.

That said, you can't stay on 10 forever without losing modern software support and modern drivers and security updates after EOL... So you basically HAVE to move at some point. My point was just in not touching 11. But it's unlikely that you'll be able to keep a Win 10 device running till 13 so... It's either 11 or 12 and with the way Microsofts cycles go, 12 likely will be better than 11.

If not... Well... Maybe Linux and proton will have caught up and Nvidia will actually make drivers etc etc. But not worth worrying about that yet.

[–] pirat@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I must admit, I really enjoyed fucking around in M$ Office 2003 (PowerPoint, FrontPage and more) as a kid — we made our own fictional "OS" Desktop Environments in PowerPoint, copying text boxes, drop-down menus etc. from FrontPage. It had a lot of new features that Office XP didn't have, which made our projects much cooler. It was like the best of both worlds, since it had a somewhat classic UI but also added features we found interesting for our weird niche usecase. Since Office 2003, it's only been getting worse, IMO.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

I like LibreOffice, I used it it university, and before Libre I used openoffice and staroffice before that.

BUT! Since working in an ms office reliant organization for more than 10 years, I've become addicted to ms office's grammar checks and integration with onedrive/sharepoint. Version control is integrated, I don't have to alt tab to a terminal to submit to svn/git, and we have comments and live collaboration.

I sometimes wish that I could have working grammar check in other software than microsoft's. Writing my final thesis in word, only to copy the sections into texniccenter for layout was tedious.

[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

OnlyOffice if you want an editor similar to Word. I switched to it also because LibreOffice's UI bugged out and I didn't see any buttons.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Thanks! I'm trying it out and see if it meets my meager needs for home use office type software. It seems lighter weight than LibreOffice.

[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 1 points 10 months ago

I like to think that LibreOffice is a great alternative to those used to 2003 and older MS Office, and OnlyOffice is a good alternative to those used to post-2003 MS Office.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

VBA automation backend

That was in the first Word for Windows for 1989. The scripting built into word was later rebranded as VBA. I used it in 1990 to replicate the "Give me a Cookie" prank that was on Vax/VMS at the time.

[–] HipHoboHarold@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I feel like anytime I've ever taken a class to learn how to use Word, it's been one of two things.

First is essentially how we will use Word. It's a note pad with a few extra things for editing text, but the main thing is headers, footers, and the margin sizes.

Second is nothing I will ever use. When I was going to school for accounting I had to take a class on Windows programs, and we spent so much time learning how to post images, how to edit them, and shit like that. By the end of the class I could probably make a profesional looking flyer, but it would have taken half the time with any image editing type program.

Also in that class we had a free students version of Word, which meant that there were usually steps in the homework we couldn't do, but we still got points docked for it. Even though we all told the professor about this. So that was fun.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

AbiWord was always a good one. Their format was weird but it wasn't limited to that.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Old word processors were designed to make sure to include features both the consumer and the professional (who would need things like markup tools, special margin widths, etc.) would need. Then professional printers moved on to better software, but Microsoft (and others) never removed those features and that turned into 'how many features can we add' until now Word is like some sort of shitty combination of a WordPad and PowerPoint. It's so full of unnecessary features that have a one case in ten thousand uses.

It's not even just the word processors themselves. This has been going on for decades. Why are dingbats fonts packaged with computers? Because they were printers marks and Apple wanted printers to use their computers, so they added a font with printers marks and then Microsoft did the same with Windows and now we still have a font which is used mostly by kids fucking around because there are now better and easier ways to use the one or two characters in that font set that you will ever likely even think about using.

The more OSes and software trim themselves of this fat, the better, but it goes the other direction most of the time.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I think Word js really more like a combination of Wordpad and Publisher.