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[โ€“] Mango@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

These aren't Linux issues that Windows does better. It's just companies that decided their software shouldn't run on Linux.

[โ€“] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, then Windows is better at getting third party producers to support it. Same problem, same result, different wording.

[โ€“] verdigris@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Sure, but there's a big difference between the support existing within the Linux architecture and it not. Almost every issue in the parent comment could be fixed without any input from Linux developers at all.

But fundamentally Linux and open source are ethically orthogonal to for-profit software. The fact that big software companies don't prioritize Linux is in some ways a feature, and is why we actually have the proliferation of high-quality open source alternatives. I doubt Blender or GIMP would exist if the proprietary leaders in their fields offered Linux versions from the beginning, especially if they were free.

There are people in the thread talking about how all Linux needs is for big software companies to ditch Microsoft and get with Linux, but that would never happen as they're imagining. Big for-profit tech would always put itself into a walled garden. What needs to happen is that the few big unassailable tech stacks that keep people chained to the proprietary products need real open replacements -- namely GIMP needs to get its redesign finished and figure out the last few features it needs for professional parity, and we need a real AutoCAD competitor. I think we already have good DAWs and professional audio through JACK/Pipewire, and there's probably a couple others that I'm forgetting... But if Photoshop and AutoCAD alone were not viewed as unreplaceable, that would be a massive boost in the number of people who could use Linux for their jobs.

[โ€“] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's how business works. What company is going to dedicate a bunch of resources to make 1% of their market happy?

[โ€“] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Personally, I hope the market share grows sufficiently that commercial enterprises start to develop for it. With the direction windows is going we need alternatives more than ever.

[โ€“] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I 100% agree, but it's a catch 22. No one develops for Linux because it doesn't have a market share, and it doesn't have a market share because no one develops for it.

[โ€“] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Exactly! But I really, really hope that the growing share in India and other places starts to catalyze commercial development.

Immutable packages like flatpak (or whatever is your format of choice) makes the software side way, way easier. It'll take a bit more convincing to get HW makers to dive in though.

It's no joke making supported software let alone HW for multiple flavours sites of kernel, architecture.

It's a lot better than 25 years ago when I used as a daily driver, but we're just not quite there yet. I keep trying!

[โ€“] Mango@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[โ€“] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 1 points 10 months ago

I'll give you the 3.8 as total userbase, but I'm willing to bet that it's only about 1% that are exclusive to Linux and don't use a Windows machine at all.

[โ€“] ironeagl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Right. I mean, macs used to be the bees' knees.