i don't know if i'm a socialist or whatever all i know is that i just want trans and gay people to be able to live their lives, women to not have men make decisions about their bodies, borders to be abolished, people to not want the earth to burn up, and to ducking just care about conserving endangered species.

bonus points for elected officials to behave like fucking grown ass adults for once.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 37 points 10 months ago

That's a progressive outlook, but not a Socialist one, primarily because nothing you said has anything directly to do with Modes of Production.

A Socialist is someone who wants the Means of Production to be collectively shared, rather than privately owned. There are many forms of it, like Syndicalism, Anarchism, Marxism, Market Socialism, etc.

[–] Duranie@literature.cafe 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So by your example, a socialist is someone who's not a dick? I can get behind that 😁.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago

basically :D

[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not necessarily. Those things can be fixed without instituting socialism (if they're fixable. That's not a given) and may even be done better without it based on socialism's real record!

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Same. I believe in the abolition of hierarchy in all forms and a society based on community and co-operation and don’t believe that any human should have any lever on power or control over any other person.

So…I guess I do know. Never mind.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I dont think anything you said would qualify you as a "socialist"

[–] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Counterpoint: If you ask most elected officials edit: in the US (of either party), any two of those as policy goals would make you a socialist.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

fuck the US, why is it relevant what they think?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You'll find out when we get done with our "Republic" arc and start the "Empire" one.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you have been on the empire thing for literal decades

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You ain't seen nothing yet, sheltered child of neoliberalism.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

i live in a colony of neoliberalism, im seeing things on a daily basis.

some of which coming from a direct consequence of the empire's decisions. some of which comes from genocides past.

there was never a republic in the first place for us.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

I think the abolition of borders falls under the umbrella of socialism

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I would settle for everybody banning TikTok and Facebook usage. That's all I wanted for christmas.