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It wasn't originally constitutionally required, but presidents who served two terms have traditionally followed George Washington's example and gotten false teeth.
this post was submitted on 02 Jan 2024
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I think it was more like the guy before him drug us into multiple, decades long wars - then the guy after him tried to overthrow our democracy and instill himself as president after losing an election. So having an 8 year break of semi-normalcy was refreshing.
No, tan suits and Dijon mustard are so much worse than either of those.
We got into a shooting war in Syria under Obama. We overthrew the Libyan government with US-French joint airstrikes, too. We fostered relations with the fascist Modi regime in India and failed to secure any kind of lasting peace with Iran. We couldn't actually end the embargo of Cuba or even close down Gitmo. Instead we ended up ramping up police powers in the wake of the Baltimore and Ferguson riots.
Despite having a supermajority in the Senate, we never managed to get DC or Puerto Rico their statehoods... which is a shame because DC statehood alone could have kept Mitch McConnell out of the Senate majority position and flipped a host of federal judicial appointments including two in the SC. Extra important given that we lost the Voting Rights Act case under Obama's DOJ and a bunch of redistricting fights as well. That gave us a Republican House Majority despite those districts representing less than 45% of the total voting base.
Hell, one of the first things the Obama House, Senate, and Presidency did after a sweeping win in 2008 was.... to strip federal funds from ACORN!
Maybe some of those fuck-ups were what cost him the House, the Senate, the SCOTUS, and then the Presidency in the snowball of failure that lead up to 2016.
Having an 8 year break of a smooth operator in office definitely blinded us to the decay of the republic that accelerated under his watch. But who did that ultimately benefit?
I guess it benefited our nation's budding crop of fascists.
Sorry for trying? The guy took a legitimate run at peace with Iran, normalizing relationships with Cuba, and closing Gitmo. The GOP found ready allies among Democratic senators to block it all. (Except the Iran deal which they just blew up the second they were in office again.)
The GOP blocked the aid that would have seen us take a Ukraine like stance to moderate rebels in Syria.
The Super majority in the Senate didn't even last a full year. They had it for six months. People think Obama should have shoved the entire progressive agenda through in six months but you forget Manchin and crew were part of that majority.
Finally, he didn't lose shit in 2016. He wasn't running because there's a term limit on presidents. It was Hillary Clinton and she shit the bed on campaigning.
Trying what? When he took office in 2009, he had all the accumulated Unitary Executive authority accrued under Bush plus direct Treasury Ownership of the six largest banks in the country, plus a Senate supermajority and overwhelming House majority, plus the world's most powerful military.
What did he do with all this in his first two years? Bailouts for the richest of the rich and Mitt Romney's solution to insurance industry reform. No mortgage debt relief, despite naked criminal behavior by the banks his US Treasury Department then owned. No student debt relief. No emergency authorization to expand Medicaid and Medicare - something even dumb-dumb Trump happily waved through without Congressional approval by way of the Stafford Act. No immigration reform which he had the votes for but was afraid to pass without Lindsey Graham's blessing. No climate change bill despite the fact that it was John McCain's fucking bill, he just didn't want to pass it without McCain's official endorsement.
He did not try. He was notable for how much he didn't do, particularly relative to Bush before and Trump after, because he was afraid of looking bad on cable news shows. He was entirely fixated on his public image, rather than on the real social impact of the administration he was orchestrating.
The GOP didn't block shit. They had no majorities anywhere in government for two full years.
Donald Trump did more with a simple majority than Obama did with 60 votes. And when he lost that majority, he pulled every lever available to the executive branch. Trump was turning out executive orders as fast as his fat little fingers could sign them. Obama couldn't even be bothered to nominate a full slate of federal judges to fill Bush-Era vacancies.
He didn't try to campaign for Hillary in big swing midwestern states. Given how he was underwater on approval through most of his last year of office, maybe it wasn't even the worst move. But this was yet another instance in which he just couldn't be bothered to try.
He had the banks and the military? (We already tackled why a decorative supermajority doesn't equal progressive heaven.) So he should have what? Led a palace coup and ruled as a dictator?
And the GOP don't need a majority. Or have you not been paying attention? They can block anything they want with 40 seats.
You're looking at a president and expecting a king.
Strange that the Democrats were never able to do the same under Trump or Bush.
I'm looking at an Obama and expecting him to exercise all the powers Congress invested in George Bush. I'm looking at a guy who was literally handed direct ownership of the entire financial system at the end of 2008 and choose to appoint a Fed Reserve hack to the Treasury who would hand it all back to the same bad actors that brought about the crash.
I'm expecting a President to behave like a President and not simply an employee of Wall Street.
Well that's a standard no president since Jimmy Carter meets. And the Democrats used minority filibusters all the time in the 2000's.
Carter's Volcker Shock was an absolute give-away to Wall Street
Democrats forced half as many cloture votes in 05/06, the last year Bush had a Senate majority, as Republicans invoked in 07/08.
Oh no half as many? So they did do it after all?
And dude are you really going to try and tell us the peanut farmer president was a bank man?
Carter was a nuclear technician with a 15 year long political career fixated on privatizing the state and national economy. He inherited a peanut farm from his dying father and kept the business afloat precisely because he understood how to obtain cheap lines of credit. Carter wasn't tilling soil in the 50s. He was a spreadsheets guy.
And this is how I know you're talking out your ass. A pigeon playing chess may look like it's doing a lot, but it literally is just shitting on everything while knocking pieces over. Obama inherited a failing economy, turned it around and trump shat all over it. not the move the country needed. fuck that traitor and you for defending him
You can place at least two of the biggest military conflagrations at the feet of that pigeon. Trump destabilized peace talks between Ukraine and Russia back in 2018, leading to border clashes and the eventual invasion in '21. And his decision to move the US embassy to Jerusalem kicked off a wave of Israeli/Palestinian violence that brought us to October 7th. That's just the tip of the iceberg.
That he bequeathed to Trump eight years later. FFS, black wealth dropped 30% under the Obama presidency, primarily thanks to the robo-signing of foreclosures under his administration. He sided with WellsFargo and Bank of America over tens of millions of middle class homeowners and functionally bankrolled their illegal home seizures via TARP.
And this is supposed to be a good thing, right?
That's been an amazing thing for the US arms industry and for western energy firms and financials.
Trump inherited a growing economy. learn about economic momentum my guy.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/data-show-trump-didn-t-build-great-economy-he-inherited-n1237793
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%932016_stock_market_selloff
Okay? You're referencing a GLOBAL event and attributing it to single person. If we're going down that path, I find it a strange that the stock market went to shit the same month Trump announced he was running for president [0] - Two can play the correlation is causation game. And even though the market eventually returned to something we might consider normal, it "... was still below the annualized returns of Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama" [1].
[0] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/13/donald-trump-presidential-campaign-speech-eyewitness-memories
[1] https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-performance-under-president-donald-trump-dow-jones-sp500-2021-1-1029987163?op=1
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