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The animating concept behind the Trump campaign will be chaos. This is what history shows us fascists do when given the chance to participate in democratic political campaigns: They create chaos. They do it because chaos works to their advantage. They revel in it, because they can see how profoundly chaos unnerves democratic-republicans—everyone, that is, whether liberal or conservative, who believes in the basic idea of a representative government that is built around neutral rules. Fascism exists to pulverize neutral rules.

So they campaign with explicit intention to instill a sense of chaos. And then comes the topper: They have the audacity to insist that the only solution to the chaos—that they themselves have either grossly exaggerated or in some cases created!—is to vote for them: “You see, there is nothing but chaos afoot, and only we can restore order!”

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Democrats still don't know who they will be running against - since the polling needed to determine that are not "likely Iowa caucus goers" but "likely Trump jurors". We don't want to be like the Republicans in 2008 who were completely prepared to take on and tear down a Hilary Clinton nominee, only to find themselves fighting Obama.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (4 children)

If the Republican nominee is anyone but Trump, we'll see Trump run as an independent and split the vote.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago
[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If the Republican nominee is anyone but Trump, we’ll see Trump run as an independent and split the vote.

That would be . . . interesting. Civil war among non-Dem voters, for sure.

[–] misophist@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I would hate to see how that voter turnout would affect all the downballot elections.

Call me a pessimist, not not likely. Trump's narcissism is only dwarfed by his laziness. If he doesn't win the nomination, he may still run to try to stay out of jail. But he will absolutely not run if he's going to be pardoned and protected by a fascist leader of his choosing, and can relax into a kingmaker role with all of the prestige and none of the responsibilities.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Him running from jail while competing against a candidate that isn't popular with the MAGA nuts, would be the ideal outcome.