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what exactly is ur take here? this is a bad thing, its fucked up that Russia targets civilians sometimes, worse things happening elsewhere doesnt mean that this is ok or that we shouldn't care, or that we should be disrespectful of civilians dying.
this is a disturbing thing to post, as in its disturbing that ur reaction to 26 civilians being murdered in a war is to laugh at it, that is psychopath shit.
Stop spewing liberal propaganda. You'd think people here would know better by now. There is no evidence Russia deliberately targeted civilians.
We know from the past that Ukrainians deliberately park military assets near civilian infrastructure like schools, malls, etc so even if the maternity center and kindergarten aren't lies it's very likely they were hit incidentally after the Ukro-nazis used them as shields with the deliberate intent of making sure Russians killed civilians so they could sob about it.
The whole war is a bad thing. Fascists seizing power in 2014 is a bad thing, the break-up of the Soviet Union was a bad thing, etc.
But I'd like to point out that with Ukraine's "fall of Berlin" level of mass conscription, Russian soldiers firing on Ukrainian soldiers is killing people who were only recently civilians and didn't choose to be on the front lines but were kidnapped and put there with Neo-Nazi blocking units (and US supplied intelligence and overwatch) preventing them from fleeing their posts. And these are people who have for months, a year been prevented from fleeing the conflict zone by their own government desperate to keep canon fodder around by shutting the borders, thus placing them in danger. Obviously you probably wouldn't say that's as wrong as civilians being incidentally killed in missile strikes but both were chosen by the Ukrainians not the Russians who desperately, with all their might and vigor tried to find peace out of this even if it meant not getting all their goals repeatedly but were rejected in favor of being bled in an attempt to destroy and humiliate Russia and its people.
The blood of any dead Ukrainian civilians (including those pressed into uniform for use as canon fodder) is not the fault of Russia but of the US and the fascist puppet leadership in Kiev and I will continually point this out and scream about this mischaracterization which is in fact regurgitating western propaganda. The blood is entirely on their not Russian hands. In a strategy where the flailing puppet regime is demanded by it's American masters to fight to the last Ukrainian it's an unusual situation.
I feel badly for the Russian soldiers who've died and I feel badly for the Ukrainian conscripts (to a lesser degree given they watched fascism rise and did nothing or abetted it), but this happens in war against these types. A war Russia did not choose. A war they gave multiple off-ramps to. A defensive war against imperialist aggression and encroachment by swastika and SS symbol sporting fascists as the tip of the NATO spear aimed at Russia's belly.
Sounds familiar?
this is just lazy, it's on the same level as people replacing "bourgeoisie" in communist slogans with "black people" or whatever to imply that communists and nazis sound-alike or have the same beliefs
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians/
the ukrainian military does have a history of using civilian infrastructure for military purposes, there's even a recent video of them using a fucking ambulance for their meat catcher conscription scheme
hamas doesn't have a history of doing that, it's zionist propaganda
The Zionist's confession to shoot explosives across all of Gaza Strip actually make it obvious that they deliberately target civilians along with their confession that killing civilians are unavoidable in war. The photo evidences and testomonies by pro-Kyiv are full of ambiguity, self-contradiction, plot holes, and fantasy logic.
The city of Donetsk has a relative area size to the Gaza Strip, and has less than half the population. Israel has dropped 25,000 tonnes of explosives on the Gaza Strip, equivalent to two nuclear bombs. Shut the fuck up.
Almost like Hamas has legitimate grievances against invading fascist settlers as do the Russians. Almost like Hamas' situation being put in a small, very dense urban area with no choice but to fight out of it is different from the choices the Ukrainians make in where to locate their air defenses and other strategically important things. Almost like every accusation a confession from the west and their pawns.
Shameful for a user on this site to take this kind of ignorant stance. Do better.